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I've got 900. When i've asked for more details stars said " end of last years games". I'm afraid stars isn't open about who has cheated, because to $ amount cheated might be a lot more than the amount given back...

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05-18-2012 , 06:17 PM

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ChicagoJoey

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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 15,464

I got a bit back and if it was from late last year the only limit i played in december was 2/4 with a bit of higher on the last 2 days of month. Only person I could really think of who played all limits then was paule but obv pure speculation and haven't seen him play in awhile too

wish stars just told you at least the extent of it or if reg or 2 fish colluding or something

Last edited by ChicagoJoey; 05-18-2012 at 06:22 PM.

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05-18-2012 , 07:33 PM

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urubu111

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

i did zillion flips w paule, im sure he is honest.

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05-18-2012 , 07:39 PM

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Borys313

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I didnt touch anything above 2/4 in December and got 208$. Might be they busted more then one colluder and refunded everyone now, not sure why would they do that?

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05-18-2012 , 07:55 PM

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Zacharrrr

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

outrageous. paule is 100% legit and still playing stars.

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05-18-2012 , 08:06 PM

#31

ChicagoJoey

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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 15,464

yea more then likely, but was first person I thought of who played lot of volume at all stakes around that time

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05-18-2012 , 09:40 PM

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grinder10

aka Odd_Oddsen

Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 428

received $0, played a tooonnn of midstakes end of last year ( 2-4 > 5-10)... so prolly 10/20 + reg??

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05-18-2012 , 10:31 PM

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nachunja

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is partyp0ker is out of the question?

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05-18-2012 , 10:57 PM

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Roy

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I think so. I played a lot with him and got nothing back. Also with how many tables/hours he played it would have been crazy if he were cheating.

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05-18-2012 , 11:03 PM

#35

Scar18

adept

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,000

given the vague description stars gives is it not possible that it was someone on a second account rather than multiple people colluding?

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05-19-2012 , 12:00 AM

#36

Mad Genius1

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Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 791

Is there any reason we shouldn't have access to all the info in situations like this? To me it seems absurd stars won't release the names and agree with joeri that it could be because full refunds weren't given.

fwiw i got $700 back and was playing only 10/20+ last Dec.

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05-19-2012 , 04:46 AM

#37

joeri

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Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,238

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Originally Posted by Mad Genius1

Just to be clear; i don't think stars has confiscated x and paid out x-1. But i do think it is likely the cheaters cheated us out of x, but (due to cashouts) stars only confiscated and paid x-1.

I would like to know more about this story from stars. But stars did not receive any praise yet in this thread. Im afraid there is a lot more cheating going on at high stake plo then we know of, so i am very happy to see that stars have active fraud control. Kudos!

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05-19-2012 , 05:19 AM

#38

ChicagoJoey

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what kind of cheating you afraid is going on l0ve2play

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05-19-2012 , 06:03 AM

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chinaski101

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Yer like joeri says they cant release the name of the cheater, as the they would have got away with some of the money. People will look up that they lost 5k to them, but only got 1k back and be pissed. You also cant take the money back off people who beat the cheater.

It could possibly be the outcome of this: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29...rojan-1120121/

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05-19-2012 , 06:43 AM

#40

joeri

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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey

what kind of cheating you afraid is going on l0ve2play

With the amounts of money we play for, i think it is naive to think nobody shares cards. It is obv a huge advantage in some spots if you know four more cards are out of the deck. But if this is really happening i suspect it will not be 10-tabling regs.

But the above is pure speculation, i have 0 suspection on anybody. But everytime an opponent makes a strange play i like to check who is on the table and if there is anything suspicious. I think it is good if we all stay alert on things like this.

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05-19-2012 , 06:52 AM

#41

MATT111

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Did Ilios play recently?

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05-19-2012 , 06:56 AM

#42

chinaski101

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yer he plays all the time. hes not a cheater, just a scumbag. I mean, hes the tightest shorty around-i dont think a cheater would be doing that.

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05-19-2012 , 07:02 AM

#43

joeri

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Lol, he requested me to ask to join the next time he plays some one hu on a 6-max table. Lol, just lol...

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05-19-2012 , 07:10 AM

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Sira Al Aziz

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Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 116

Is it just me that thinks that it's a bit out of line to be throwing around names of possible cheaters just because you don't like the player or whatever?

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05-19-2012 , 07:45 AM

#45

Zacharrrr

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i agree w you sira al aziz.

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05-19-2012 , 08:21 AM

#46

joeri

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^yeah lets not randomly call out people.

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05-19-2012 , 08:24 AM

#47

TGSM89

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Look at names that are no longer around imo, instead of accusing people who are still playing

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05-19-2012 , 09:46 AM

#48

ChicagoJoey

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Originally Posted by Sira Al Aziz

Is it just me that thinks that it's a bit out of line to be throwing around names of possible cheaters just because you don't like the player or whatever?

yea thought about this after I posted but then thought about who came to my mind right away and pretty easy to say nah def not and move on if not the case

if someone throw my name out there, take few mins to say nah not me etc etc

maybe someone says a name and someone else comes in with xxx evidence rather then none of us are any closer to anything

assuming it was in december this took place i played 450k hands and got 289 dollar refund lol don't even know where begin to look in DB as far as if reg/fish and not really sure all the people who played higher that month because seems like 10/20+ also got bit of refund as well

Last edited by ChicagoJoey; 05-19-2012 at 09:53 AM.

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05-19-2012 , 10:10 AM

#49

HitmanDK

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Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 405

You played 450K hands during december!? Damn that is sick. Did you have time for christmas?

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05-19-2012 , 11:24 AM

#50

sauce123

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Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 2,428

i got ~12k.

i didnt play basically at all in the end of 2011 (maybe < 2k hands), and since beginning of 2012 i have been playing 25/50+. So stars is bull****ting a bit here it looks to me.

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