Hero open BTN J985 for 40.
SB call, Straddle call.

SB is loose fish, 60% vpip pre, stationy postflop especially up to river, but not a total whale, is somewhat aware of relative hand strength, and has been capable of folding rivers.

Straddle is relative unknown, seems like a non-fish rec with clue type.


Q86

X/X/Hero 85/SB call/Straddle fold.

Q X/Hero 210


Thoughts on this line and plans on various rivers? What are we doing on against this opponent? Tx? 7x? Anyone bluffing 4x/5x or some other river?

if you decide to bet i think 3/4 is too much
hands that are folding will fold for smaller amount. if you get called i would check back a club, bet 7x, probably check Tx and check back every other river

i dont mind checking back flop against two others.


As played bet smaller on the turn as donkerr said -

I know are hand is not strong,but prefer betting on flop,specially when straddle is in the hand.I like turn betting of 210 into 310.On river i think c/back is mandatory,very hard to

expect a fold after calling turn,and valubetting flush would be to thin.

If he calls he's got a queen a large amount of the time. Give up river

By my calculations pot is 295 so 210/295 = 71%.
But yeah I definitely get your point given Hero blocks 8x and don't have Qx that maybe 180-200 size is more appropriate for that spot. However in game against stationy guys I always talk myself into throwing in that extra 10-15%, it can make some difference I guess .

Why xb Tx but not 7x? Seems like minimal difference.

I tend to agree w/everyone on giving up river, but if we have to give up every river and can't even vbet when we improve, are we doing something wrong on previous streets?

U dont have to win every hand

Yes but EV of flop+turn line depends partly on having some FE with bluffs otr and some value with made hands so I'm wondering if the overall gameplan in this hand is flawed in some way if we can't do anything on basically any river.

I think it's easier overall and better for your ranges/balance to start with some size of a cbet

If I bet flop, I almost always double barrel when the board pairs unless the board is super dry. So I definitely bet this turn. I think your turn bet is too big though, if I did the math there's $290 in the pot on turn. I think $150 gets the same amount of folds as $210. He should fold his straight draws, 86 and whatever other random stuff he floated flop with other than a set, Qx, AA or KK (the overpairs should be discounted a bit though).

If he calls the only rivers I'm betting are a Tc or (maybe) a non-club T or 7. Non-club T or 7 may be too thin. I may call a bet on the river if the flush comes in depending on sizing, but really hoping I can check back if the flush comes in. Never bluffing river as I put him on all value when he calls the turn barrel on a paired board.

Just a guess but because you get a call on the turn the poster is probably thinking villain's range is Qxxx and random QTxx is significantly more likely than random Q7xx for most players. It's probably minimal compared to described villain's overall range though.