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MW pot with bare K-high flush draw MW pot with bare K-high flush draw

07-10-2019 , 06:35 PM
5/5/10 live

Hero (2200) with KdTdQh5h in HJ
4 limps, I raise to 70, LAG CO (3K) and 2 limpers (loose recs, 1K each) call

Flop (295): 8h 4h 3s
Check to Hero

My plan was to bet/fold 200 here to deny equity vs pairs and straight draws. I have no SDV and this board shouldn’t hit limp calling ranges as much as something like 874hh. If I get jammed on, I can fold as I’m behind most GII ranges.

Thoughts?
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07-10-2019 , 08:11 PM
I like taking free card here personally. More want to lead your nutted draws w/ no SDV imo. You don't block anything, no backdoors and hand can't stand a x/r. Medium strength draw you want to control pot over bloat and by betting you put yourself in position to get blown off your equity.
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07-11-2019 , 02:14 AM
Check. You aren't drawing to the nuts, and your backdoors are weak besides an unlikely runner runner nut straight.

No good reason to over commit at your stack depth. You have so many better hands to barrel with. There are still paths to victory after checking, while cbet is mostly looking for punishment.
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07-11-2019 , 07:54 AM
Why are you raising pre?

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07-11-2019 , 07:19 PM
What am I missing? Was it a K high or Q high flush draw?
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07-11-2019 , 08:38 PM
Definitely loose to raise PRE; though it's good to mix it up occasionally I typically like to exercise pot-control with hands like these where I'm in position and trying to avoid getting squeezed.

You've got a naked 3rd nut-flush draw (based on your post it's to the Queen, not the King) and you are getting a free card multi-way. Your hand is pretty weak actually, you could get check-raised off by Ace-high flush draw, wraps, sets, etc (even 8-7 with a naked Ace of hearts). I would take the free card as played and re-asses the turn, you have no backdoors outside of J/9 for a straight so it's probably best to exercise pot control again.

From my experience playing deep-stacked PLO guys will call raises pre-flop with almost anything depending on how they are running/how good they are. Calling $70 raise multi-way in an action game with low-wraps like 8-7-6-5 or 6-5-4-3 isn't tough when you have $2,000+ (in fact that's the type of hand a lot of guys want, since most players in PLO tend to over value open-raising hands without getting the right flops....never seen so many people go broke with naked AA as I do in PLO).
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07-14-2019 , 11:41 AM
You need a pretty strong hand to bet in a 4-way pot. I agree that the somewhat dry board is in favor of a bet, but when it's this multiway you're not going to get enough folds.

For fun, I ran a sim in PPT Odds Oracle. With 3 players, how often does someone have at least an overpair or a four flush, with one range 50%-5% (the LAG) and two 50% (the rec limpers)? 86.26% of the time. Definitely not getting folds enough and your outs aren't to the nuts, so check.
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07-16-2019 , 07:34 AM
Quote:
Thoughts?
I don't care for either the preflop raise nor the flop semi bluff.
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