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Old 11-05-2016, 11:58 AM   #1701
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Re: Massive bot ring on PokerStars/Party and how to spot them

Richas can confirm, but there was some suggestion from UK regulators about sites having to be more transparent about refunds in the future.
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Old 11-06-2016, 03:44 AM   #1702
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Meanwhile yes, last time I heard Stars had made some small repayments presumably using funds seized from their accounts and party had not.
Party didn't pay back anyone over bot compensation until a couple of weeks ago, for whatever reason they held on to the money for up to 18 months.

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Is this true for the PLO botring in PokerStars? Can anything be done about that?

Its perverse if the sites have incentives to keep the bots in the games (worst case they have to pay bot winnings back - not rake earnings).
The worst case is worse than that. Currently the reputable sites appear to be doling out the money remaining in the bot accounts, an amount that has nothing to do with how much the bots won or raked. There has never been any word on how they distribute it either, is it based on what you lost to the bots? How many hands you played with them? A friend of mine played more than 100k hands with a single NL bot account and got nothing, I lost a few k to them and got nothing.
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Old 11-08-2016, 05:56 AM   #1703
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I know for a fact botting with AutoIt script is still going on undetected on party.

I know this from a $0.01/$0.02 botter "friend". As long as they don't even catch him I know party is in no way safe to play on.
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Old 11-24-2016, 07:54 AM   #1704
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Can anyone PM me what stat potbet and Schwein were talking about in posts #72 and #366. I'm 95% sure I found another bot on Stars (fits all the other criteria) and would like to confirm my suspicion.
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Old 11-24-2016, 11:03 AM   #1705
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Re: Massive bot ring on PokerStars/Party and how to spot them

You've got pm
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Old 02-08-2017, 07:04 AM   #1706
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Did we just stop caring about this? Any news?
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:35 AM   #1707
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Just a warning to anyone that still takes Poker Stars seriously - there are massive bot rings everywhere, both on real and play money tables. They join, strategically position themselves around a table and then follow a simple algorithm to try and get players into tilt, so that they can exploit players who cannot leave the table (for whatever reason). All the evidence you need is in your hand histories - look at who joins and when, and how they play. Unless you are 100% certain that all players at your table are human and not colluding, you are being scammed.
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:09 AM   #1708
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You're a few years too late to the party. The winning regulars at HSPLO and SSPLO who know what to look for haven't spotted new(er) bot accounts playing the regular ring tables recently, but no you're right, gotta watch out for all the bots and collusion at the play money tables. . Also ~90% of all hands played at 2/4+ (which is HSPLO according to 2p2) are played at zoom with almost the entire player pool consisting of longtime regulars and players who are clearly recreationals, there aren't any new mysterious winning regulars these days, so your post is in the wrong forum.
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Old 05-17-2017, 01:45 PM   #1709
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Thanks SeaKing. You're right, I am a late stater - and Zoom is the way to go for sure.
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Old 05-18-2017, 06:05 AM   #1710
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and Zoom is the way to go for sure.
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Old 05-21-2017, 03:23 AM   #1711
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Did we just stop caring about this? Any news?
I'd like some cliffs.
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Old 05-21-2017, 05:24 AM   #1712
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I'd like some cliffs.
wow, must be a slow news day.
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Old 05-21-2017, 06:38 AM   #1713
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Re: Massive bot ring on PokerStars/Party and how to spot them

If the bot ring in question is still alive, it makes sense to keep the thread open to discuss it.

But if the botring has been shut down, and the tables are safe (for now), having this thread open does damage to the credibility of the current games on offer on pokerstars/partypoker, and is bad for online pokers reputation. Many players avoid online poker entirely because of doubts about bots and the integrity of the games.

Does it make sense to close this thread? A new thread could be created in future if somebody has evidence that a new botring might exist.
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Old 05-21-2017, 08:34 AM   #1714
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I'm sure it's been mentioned previously but it is very possible, if not highly likely, that the bot ring simply moved on to another poker site.
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Old 09-22-2017, 11:07 PM   #1715
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Some cliffs, was FedorZaysev a bot and is the account still active?
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Old 09-23-2017, 01:25 AM   #1716
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He was the biggest bot there ever was I think, starting out as a holdem bot then moving to plo.
No it isnt active anymore.
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Old 09-23-2017, 09:19 AM   #1717
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Ok, sick.

Did Stars payed reparations/compensations?

How much did Fedor win? How big was the damage?
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