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Originally Posted by apo5tol
Well, the fact of the matter is that plo games 200 and below are still fairly soft (in terms of overall player skill, dont wana start a rake discussion here or whatever), so accounts who are able to play ridiculous number of hands and never go on tilt will prey on the recs and weaker regs thus destroying the overall economy.
Even the bosses of plo5k+ should be concerned because of this fact even tho these bots obviously wont have a chance against them.
I am admittedly not a PLO expert,but I know a thing or two about poker in general,but anyways I'll give my humble opinion about the botters playing the levels they do.
Of course,the higher the stakes,the higher the skill level.I still think there might be a chance,that bots could at least be 'in match' against the better players.If not in 2015,then in the very near future.Just take Claudico for example.
If I was a botter myself I'd concider what is the best and safest way to exploit the system and make as much out of it as I can?Obviously if the stakes are higher,the skill differences are much lower (usually),so in plo the swings any player will experience are way bigger,even BI wise,even $ wise.
We all know its fairly common in plo,even for the very best players to have 20-30bi mini downswings in a couple of days.That 20-30 buyins are 4-6k at 200,but it would be 40-60k at 10/20...(notice,im not even talking about really high stakes)
Keeping that much money in an account,that could become suspicious ANY time would be dumb i guess.
So the reward might be high if the bot can compete,run good and stay under the radar at higher stakes,but there are many significantly higher risks to consider as well.
Also,higher stakes players tend to be smarter (again,usually),so the chances of getting exposed earlier are much higher again.There are multiple reasons for this,not just players being smarter,they are usually more suspicious to WHO are they playing as well.Just take a popular example of Isildur1.I am very sure the players he played at the time all knew he was as soon as he started crushing really high.Its just the nature of the people who play those limits,and the nature of he environment they live and play in...
Yet,the public was eagerly awaiting for the revelation of the mystical crusher.
Heck,there might be ppl who play plo100/200 and don't give a .... if they are playing a bot,they just want a game to play in.I doubt we could find a high stakes player who thinks like this.(No offence to smaller stakes rec's obv.)
The player pool at higher stakes is obviously way more shallow,and if u are a botter my educated guess is,that u would want to be as anonymous,as you can be.If a new player arrives in a relatively small pool,everyone gets suspicious,hoping he/she might be a fish or preferably a whale,but if said player turns out to be a crusher,people will start asking questions like "who is this new guy?" "anyone knows him?".So yeah...thats how it works.Naturally.
But a lot better in a much bigger pool at the micros or midstakes,where people just grind out their bread,rarely asking these questions.As a botter you need a safe environment to hide in.
So concidering all the above,i personally think that the safest way to run a winning bot,and print money is running it at the midstakes.
Also worth to mention that to my knowledge in Russia,or other Eastern-Euro countries if u can make 50-100k a year u are basically a high roller of life there.
Long post sorry,just 1 last thing to add:
"We are Poker"
Last edited by MrsLifetilt; 06-15-2015 at 07:11 PM.