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Originally Posted by Schwein
I am very happy to see Richas posting in this thread, he is by far the most knowledgeable person when it comes to regulatory issues and governing bodies on this forums. Also totally agree that keeping that quite was no longer an option.
Since I started this thread a couple of PokerStars mid/highstakes regs emailed me that they have reported those players from my botting list, and not just one name but few of them after spotting an obvious connection between those accounts, and yet nothing was done. PokerStars Game Integrity was getting reports on those botters as early as October 2014.
Oink and Grethe forwarded their whole investigation to PokerStars in February 2015, that was 5 months ago. I saw their thread last week and see how long it took me the find the rest of the botters, and I dont have an 8 figure budget like the Game Integrity Team.
We already have June 2015, its been 9 months since the first reports started flowing in to the Game Integrity Team. There are 10 accounts still active, at least one them plays now as I am writing this. Over the last year over 5% of my playing volume was done when I was seated with one of those cheaters at the same table.
How much longer should everyone wait quietly till this gets resolved?
This is ridiculous and damning evidence against STARS.
I wrote to Stars at least 2 years ago complaining about what I found online. There are English, Russian (and Chinese) language websites (especially .onion) where players are actively seeking collusion buddies, selling bots, offering complete analysis of players using stats they shouldn't have access to and a range of other products to aid cheating. Is it fair to say that without Russian PTR, not even the OP and his team could have collated the necessary data?
Keeping quiet is what got us into this mess. It seems that if a poker player without great online experience sits down at a midstakes cash table on Stars, they are either surrounded by scripted bum-hunting sharks or fed upon by merciless bots.
My ego lets me think I would have adjusted to beat a single bot. What if Phil Ivey sat with 2-4 colluding players in PLO without them even using bots? His chances of winning must drop from the 55-65% record he has even against top pros, to what, 30-40% playing perfect poker against colluders who are playing 8-16 cards between them?
It wouldn't shock me at all to discover eastern euros have been sharing hole cards in all games, especially NLHE. Beating bots is impossible for 90% of recs, playing against a field of colluders even outside a bot ring is impossible
for everyone. It's frightening to think how impossible the game would be if bots were colluding.
Russians are now crushing all games on Stars. It takes 5-10 years to become a top player yet virtually overnight eastern euros changed the landscape of poker for even the very best players with strong winning records.
I am afraid the eastern euros and Russians in particular are going to have to be segregated on Stars. As Russia is now the largest single market and dominates, a segregation policy (e.g. Chinese) would seriously effect the volume and profitability of everyone else.
Ah **** it, "Добро пожаловать в рай", I'm off to buy a few Russian brides and put them to work at mid-high stakes PLO, Stud, TD, Razz, Badugi and Draw. In the time it takes for me to get caught, I'll have already cashed out to my Russian bank account which no western government can touch.