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Live 5/5 plo probably very standard hand with bad aces

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12-08-2017 , 11:20 AM

Props123

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 7

Mainly a NL player but play in a really good plo nl mix game. Have put in ton of hours playing plo but still find myself in unsure spots

Onto the hand
5/5 with 10 btn straddle everyone has around 1k
In sb with aa28 rainbow open to 35
Bb utg and utg 1 calls
Mp (, a nit pots to like 180. Only ever doing this with aa or akk (maybe?) with tons of history with player
Hj crazy guy pots could have literally any 4 cards that aren't trips or quads.
Button not as crazy but not good rec who likes to gamble shoves in these spots.
Standard snap fold or standard snap call?

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12-08-2017 , 12:05 PM

JobRunsBetter

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 331

You only have 3.5 bbs invested, equity diluted by going what sounds like will be between 4-6 ways to flop. If it’s me, and if I know nitty player has KKAX then I’m shoving. Otherwise I’m probably finding a fold.

Did button shove? You said he likes to gamble and shove in these spots, but did he gii here?

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12-08-2017 , 12:55 PM

Purasevic

adept

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 768

4Way pot with rainbow disconnected aces clear fold to me.I would fold even 3way.

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12-08-2017 , 05:11 PM

SolarAU

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 1,795

Your multi-way equity is rarely great. A typical high variance spot, folding is okay here, you will have plenty of better hands to call or 5bet shove with in this spot.

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12-08-2017 , 05:59 PM

jdr0317

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 8,231

Ya the issue w/ all this action is that an ace is almost certainly in someone else's hand, and very likely both of them. And without the ability to hit a set, your hand value sucks 3 ways

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12-08-2017 , 08:19 PM

monikrazy

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 28,046

All stack sizes might be relevant, I just ran a sim that gave you 15.2% equity vs what I think are reasonable ranges for players described

You are fairly unlikely to get your money in good here unless we can squeeze out initial limp-raiser holding something like kkxx

So fold, not overplaying aaxx hands is one of the key characteristics of strong omaha players

I would also just call pre, not because you were raised but because your particular hand does not have very good equity in a multiway pot and the playability is awful

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12-10-2017 , 10:08 AM

koolwhynot2

centurion

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 176

Fold ain't close

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12-10-2017 , 04:21 PM

BDHarrison

Pooh-Bah

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Originally Posted by SolarAU

Your multi-way equity is rarely great. A typical high variance spot, folding is okay here, you will have plenty of better hands to call or 5bet shove with in this spot.

This is why I almost never put in the first raise with bad aces out of the blinds or EP unless a single raise is likely to narrow the field.

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12-11-2017 , 09:09 AM

tanguillo

banned

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13

easy fold

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