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06-09-2020 , 09:50 PM
If I am really good an NLH but have no experience in PLO, which course out of all that are available (Upswing, Jnandez, etc..) would be best if any? I don't care about my GTO opening ranges or optimal barreling frequencies, but rather an efficient course to get me profitable to play soft private games. Or if not a course, which resource I can use to only study PLO for a specifically fishy environment.
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06-09-2020 , 10:11 PM
What makes you think GTO opening/positional ranges won't help you more than nearly anything you could learn right now?
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06-09-2020 , 10:35 PM
Well yes opening ranges will probably help me a lot. Wrong choice of words. I play an extremely GTO based strategy in NL but all I am looking for in PLO is exploitative "tricks" that will get me far ahead of these players who don't know anything. Preflop ranges will definitely be in this.
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06-09-2020 , 10:36 PM
But imo GTO opening ranges in general kind of go out in the window in these games because there are often many limps in front or mega fish behind. So meant I was more looking for exploitative preflop ranges to play in these games, rather than optimally solved ranges.
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06-09-2020 , 11:28 PM
in my experience they tell you which hands have a high expected value.... vs all types of players unless you start talking about very specific multi raise scenarios preflop, or 9 way action etc...that's the nature of "good hands". If you wanted to pure exploit and cut out a ton of the bluffs... just clip off a ton of the lower EV heads up/multiway hands as needed away from your gto preflop solution..... If you want to deviate don't stack off with AQQ/ATT9/AJJX with seemingly no fold equity live when gto says you are suppose to, and maybe 3/4 bet more with double suited KK vs maniacs and fold to a raise than it says to do, etc etc, but as far as opening ranges and defending ranges those should certainly suit you and are the absolute first step. Either way you need to know the "standard" gto ranges to have a solid foundation to start exploiting from.
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06-10-2020 , 04:27 AM
The simple idea is that with 4 streets left to play, you want to be dominating. Dominating means high suited connected cards and high pairs.

Bet until people give you a reason not to bet anymore. For loose-passive players, that means when they bet or raise. For some tight-passive players it might mean when they call. Against aggro players call them down light or get it in. It's all the same as NL, just be aware of the power of the draw, reduced implied odds, closer equities, higher variance, and all the things the above imply: you can be a favourite over top set with no pair, chasing non-nut draws can get you into trouble, you're going to be flipping a lot, and reciprocal tilt equity is a big deal.

GL.
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06-10-2020 , 04:29 AM
I sort of back the idea that standard learning resources won't be the best way to utilize your time. There's online and there's live; then there's live, and there's home games. Maybe find some videos from like 10 years ago. GTO will give a good idea of what hands are good to play but will miss a lot of valuable spots.
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06-10-2020 , 05:43 AM
Find the lowest stake online full ring PLO game you can and play that for experience

Play like 20% lower VPIP than the table average

Fold bottom 2 pair on the flop

edit: Yeah, not an answer to your question really, sry

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06-10-2020 , 04:17 PM
lol that small advice probably gives him an edge already in a live plo homegame.
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06-22-2020 , 11:58 PM
Nut peddle until you get better. Add tricks along the way with reads and more player information. The biggest improvement I made is this.... You will win big pots when you have nut draws and nutted hands. Why? because you can push with those hands. It is really hard to bet/call with the Q high fd. With the A high fd and a gutter, you are flipping in the worst case scenario.
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