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Old 06-10-2021, 09:03 PM   #26
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Re: Was I dumb to run it twice on these hands

lol 2017.

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#8 - This is the only one I'm not sure I agree with. Why would you run it twice to likely chop so he can lose his chips to someone else at the table and then leave? Wouldn't you want to just scoop his chips right there or he wins and you rebuy and have a good chance to get your chips and his chips back?
It's more complicated in reality, because people play differently at different stacks and it also affects how other play. It's possible that a player staying will cause others to play worse, and it can also stop a better player from sitting down etc. Generally though I wouldn't base my decision around this too much.

I don't think it's wrong to choose how many times to run it based on circumstances, but I find it easier to stick to 1 choice just so other people don't find it confusing and avoid conflict.

While generally it doesn't affect the EV of our decision making, people don't all play poker for EV, and it can make people unhappy if their ability to run it twice gets hampered. Are they justified in being unhappy? No, but, idk, it doesn't cost much to be nice here.

And as mentioned, people might play worse and/or be happier less stressed when they play knowing whether they will be able to run it twice. If they thought you were going to run it twice and then you say no, they might be upset and, hey, that's reasonable I think. Like I said, not everyone just cares about EV. It makes them feel better to have some idea of what's going to happen. As such I tend to make it clear ahead of time if I won't run it twice, especially as I generally do.
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Old 06-10-2021, 09:19 PM   #27
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Re: Was I dumb to run it twice on these hands

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lol 2017.



It's more complicated in reality, because people play differently at different stacks and it also affects how other play. It's possible that a player staying will cause others to play worse, and it can also stop a better player from sitting down etc. Generally though I wouldn't base my decision around this too much.

I don't think it's wrong to choose how many times to run it based on circumstances, but I find it easier to stick to 1 choice just so other people don't find it confusing and avoid conflict.

While generally it doesn't affect the EV of our decision making, people don't all play poker for EV, and it can make people unhappy if their ability to run it twice gets hampered. Are they justified in being unhappy? No, but, idk, it doesn't cost much to be nice here.

And as mentioned, people might play worse and/or be happier less stressed when they play knowing whether they will be able to run it twice. If they thought you were going to run it twice and then you say no, they might be upset and, hey, that's reasonable I think. Like I said, not everyone just cares about EV. It makes them feel better to have some idea of what's going to happen. As such I tend to make it clear ahead of time if I won't run it twice, especially as I generally do.
I didn't want to start a new thread for something which I'm sure has been discussed, so this was the most recent one i found

In this particular case, there weren't any factors other than the specific winning/losing outcome probabilities. They were convinced running it twice to give more chances to get free-rolled is far worse decision to running it once. I tried to explain RIT only reduces variance, they vehemently disagreed.
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Old 06-10-2021, 10:22 PM   #28
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Re: Was I dumb to run it twice on these hands

Okay. So poker players are stupid and bad at maths. What's new? Is this really a "high stakes plo" question? It's literally basic maths.

The only notable exception is when you run it twice in a multiway pot where you only run it twice if one of the 2 players agreeing to run it twice wins the first pot, then the two of you run it twice between the two of you, which is done in some places. That changes EV.
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