Well said guys, v v good points there.

I guess in PLO, quite often you get to face this kind of situation where your/villain "range" is purely consisted of 1-2 hands, 1st/2nd/3rd nuts. I interpret his "not-as-big" turn bet as a tempting bet when he has the nut and obv read hero's calling hand as JJ therefore push to max value at river.

On the other hand, put yourself in villain's shoe, how comfortable would you rep AA in this spot when you know hero has JJ? Maybe thats a great spot to bluff?

Villain's polarized enough with this sizing that A9 is better to call with than JJ anyway, but in general when a villain's recently been on tilt and then gotten off tilt, and then basically shoves full pot for over 200bb OTR, you really don't need to worry about "exploitability" much. Villain's likely to be very unbalanced here in one particular direction. Just worry about exploiting him. About 95% of people are never bluffing in this spot with this sizing.

Maybe if you're playing zigmund or durrr at 200/400 someday and you think they have mad respect for your game, then you can worry about whether you're at the top of your range here and what you should call against a GTO-optimal full-pot triple barrel. (Hint: Your solution will probably involve folding JJ with no A blocker, calling 99, calling AJJ, and calling A9.) You could actually argue JJ is the bottom of your range after the turn.

Hi, guys! I'm new but I try not to come out as a donkey. Is anyone thinking villain could have AJxx and turning it to a bluff to shove out hero from a 9xxx? If he's putting hero on a hand like KQT9, QT98 or is this always a 3bet pf by hero no matter the suits. He's playing ip so I could easily see that playing AJxx like that on flop would get us maximum pot control because hero really has no shoving range(?) on a flop like this. If the villain is a good player I think he would barrel the turn with AJxx and propably realizes after the call that he is no good, but is blocking all the big hand outs (except 99xx). But then as hero I would think c/raising 99xx leaves too weak hands to our calling range so easy to barrel if villain. Anyway I might be totally off here but I'm sure you'll let me know if I am.

your logic is fine, but the fact that a) he wont always 3b flop, b) wont always bet turn, c) wont always bluff riv d) there arent very many possible AJ combos at all makes it overall not much of a factor.

Ok, thanks. What is his assumed cback range ott (do I use it right? ott=on the turn, right?) in this situation. Does he have one? With this line are we jamming turn to a blank if he bets.

He probably has a variety of hands that he checks turn with - anything marginal from 9xxx to AJ (that doesn't want to try your bluff ) and possibly some draws that are giving up.

OTT when he checks we have to check back a lot and rarely get to protect our checkback range. This is a good time to check back and be able to show up with a big hand. Our hand looks like a busted draw and will encourage a river bluff that we can rarely look up in this spot.

results ?

i was villain, and thought reg was pretty bad although he was up some bi...


i had AAxx and was really surprized he snaped river as i think its at
least a tank

ahhhh that's sneaky!

This felt like the end of The Usual Suspects. You owe me a new coffee mug.

This deep I prefer lead the flop, this have the advantage that he cant play for stacks and makes easier the call down.

Or a check call flop and turn lead should achieved the same, in case you don't have flop leading range.