Hi,

villain seems very aggro guy. We are 25 hands in match and he seems to 3bet pretty crazy (50%+). He stacked me in first hand with K445$ss in 3bet pot on 458r when he cR t turn after betting flop.

Havent seen him checking flosp so far i think.

Whats ur plan on turn/river in following hand:


$2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
2 Players
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Stacks:
tizzl (SB) ($858.60)
BB ($784.60)

Pre-Flop: ($6, 2 players) tizzl is SB J A 6 7
tizzl raises to $12, BB raises to $36, tizzl calls $24

Flop: K 9 7 ($72, 2 players)
BB checks, tizzl bets $48, BB calls $48

Turn: 2 ($168, 2 players)
BB checks, tizzl has 700$ behind???



Flop i think betting is best given our nut equity.

Turn: I don´t expect having to much FE on turn given 2nd FD on board so it looks like we have to fire 3 if we bet turn but its also hard to say which rivers we are going to bluff?

I also have no idea about his c/r tendencies on turn too...

Anyway it feels a little bit tight to check back a hand with so much nut equity on turn but i think thats the way it goes unless we know more about his cF turn tendencies.

What do you do?

Leaning towards check

pretty close given the description.

If you haven't been too out of line I would probably bet and barrel quite a few dif rivers, and give up on others.

If he seems like the type to mindlessly c/r any piece of it irregardless of your previous behaviour and stack depths then I would prob check

Which one would you bluff exactly?The most rivers that change the board either give us 2pair or a flush?

K2345, (pretty much trying to makes all combos of 9x and random TTJx hands to fold, we may be bluffing with the best hand, but w/e). Give up on 89TJQ (generally).

Sometimes bluff spades (since if he is c/r super wide on turn we can prob discount a ton of hands that peel flop and turn extra equity with spades)

Ace hits, sometimes go for thin value

hearts hits, thick value

trivial bet

You expect to see lots of (enough) folds on turn or because you wanna set up a river bluff (on which cards would you bluff)?

His range is super weighted toward QJT/QT9/JT9/T98 type hands. Bet and follow through on the river on any cards that don't improve this range. The money you'll make winning unimproved vs. the above range far outweighs the money you'll lose when you get check/jammed on by like AKQ w/ spades or whatever.

Think this should definitely be a check back on the turn against a super-aggro player since our equity's bad enough against even a wide CRing range that you could almost make an argument for folding if he raises the turn. It's a bet against a lot of players, but not the one described in the OP.

trivial check back, you cant bet call and you are being pushed off your hand way too often. And if you can bet call its way too high variance and too little +ev to do it.

+1

LOL the deuce of spades is NOT getting c/r often at all with these stacks

Strongly disagree. We don't rep anything... 2 f draws ... He's hyper aggro.

Why havent anyone said 4bet pre yet?

??? we rep everything he cant and his range is weak. even tho he's hyper aggro or w/e not gonna believe that he c/r THIS turn with any sort of absurd frequency 200bbs deep. one of the flush draws (the one we have) is accounted for and if he decide to c/c pair with hearts, straight draw with eharts w/e for what w/e reason rather than bet it's usually not to c/c and c/bomb blanks

because it's not optimal

Disagree... More variance - Yes... Bigger +EV - Yes

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AhJd6h7c	49.35%	287,497	17,167
50%	50.65%	295,336	17,167

Where is the EV coming from?

4-bet pre seems pretty bad

Playing a monster pot in pos with intiative where we dominate his calling range

So you wanna run a really high 4-bet % vs these villains?

I'm having a hard time with the domination of his calling range bit...

Yup... Why wont u?

Besides reducing variance?

Doorbread wins this thread.

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Just think that we will earn more $/hand keeping postflop play deeper where villain makes bigger mistakes, and 4-betting a more solid value range.

If I was opening up my 4-bet range, I wouldn't do it with this hand, it just doesn't flop hard enough often.. we are gonna get played back at a ton in 4-bet pots vs these guys

if the 6 was a 10 then I might 4-bet, but its just too disconnected and we will not be in a lot of good flop spots. 4-betting a trashy suited ace is not how I would play vs these guys