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Old 04-28-2017, 08:27 PM   #1
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HR 1-2-5 PLO8 Flopped Nuts no redraw concerns?

Setup: Local cardroom, 2 tables with PLO/PLO8 mix. Players sitting generally between $300-600. This is the Hi-Lo orbit. I'm in the big blind.

H: A34T

V1: Pots to $15, two callers, I also call. ($62)

Flop: 256

I think there is a word for this flop?
H: Pot ($124)
V1: Repot ($248)
V2: Fold
V3: Fold

Hero?

Repot? Call?
What's the level of concern in this spot facing probable quartering or possibly being out drawn in later streets, as I obviously have zero redraws? Is there an argument for a fold?

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Old 04-28-2017, 09:33 PM   #2
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Re: HR 1-2-5 PLO8 Flopped Nuts no redraw concerns?

You can't fold here with the nut hi and uncounterfeitable nut low, if the game was hi only you can think about folding

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Also, you aren't very deep
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Old 04-29-2017, 02:04 AM   #3
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Re: HR 1-2-5 PLO8 Flopped Nuts no redraw concerns?

Thanks. That is certainly how I was leaning. After the hand I re-thought through and wondered if it was logical to take a different line from (results):
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Results would have been the same, so I suppose to clarify the question a bit, about the theory of when to enter check-call mode?
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Old 04-29-2017, 08:46 AM   #4
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Re: HR 1-2-5 PLO8 Flopped Nuts no redraw concerns?

This might be the closest I've gotten to reporting a thread.
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Old 04-29-2017, 09:09 AM   #5
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Re: HR 1-2-5 PLO8 Flopped Nuts no redraw concerns?

OP, You played yourself out of 1/4 of the pot, you should have split the high and won the low with your A3 (31) vs his 32 so should have won 75% of the pot, not 50%. Btw your hand is the favorite (around 57.5/42.5) as you have a much stronger hold on the low then he has to redraw on you on the high. Here are the approximate frequencies of what will happen:

Hero
wins hi 0%
wins low 86%
ties hi 45%
ties low 14%

Villain
wins hi 55%
wins low 0%
ties hi 45%
ties low 14%

Cancel out the duplicate % then subtract the difference, you are left with ~31% for Hero, but since each hold or redraw is only for half of the pot you cut this in half and are left with is ~15.5% which is where the difference between 57.5 and 42.5% comes from.





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Old 04-29-2017, 12:35 PM   #6
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Re: HR 1-2-5 PLO8 Flopped Nuts no redraw concerns?

I'm literally twitching imagining you existing OP
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Old 04-29-2017, 01:39 PM   #7
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Re: HR 1-2-5 PLO8 Flopped Nuts no redraw concerns?

( ) basically the same hand


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Old 04-29-2017, 05:22 PM   #8
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Re: HR 1-2-5 PLO8 Flopped Nuts no redraw concerns?

Quote:
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OP, You played yourself out of 1/4 of the pot, you should have split the high and won the low with your A3 (31) vs his 32 so should have won 75% of the pot, not 50%. Btw your hand is the favorite (around 57.5/42.5) as you have a much stronger hold on the low then he has to redraw on you on the high. Here are the approximate frequencies of what will happen:
Thank you. I think perhaps I mis-recorded Villain's hand. Must have been an nfd with same low instead of 2-pair w/ fd. Sorry for the mistake. Thanks for the information and analysis.
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Old 04-30-2017, 12:27 PM   #9
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Re: HR 1-2-5 PLO8 Flopped Nuts no redraw concerns?

Well played. Lol at considering folding if only hi.
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Old 05-01-2017, 03:26 PM   #10
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Re: HR 1-2-5 PLO8 Flopped Nuts no redraw concerns?

Nut / Nut and not particularly deep stacked. If you ever fold here, you should quit poker.
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