This was, like, a really, like, cool video.

Joey didnt ask if cumicon was willing to take a polygraph. Sad about that

I just watched the beginning back and can't believe how much I say like. It's really annoying.

If anyone has any questions that didn't get covered I can answer them here.

Thanks for the podcast! Really inspiring, but also realistic (it's hard work!) A bunch of questions for you:

Action is sporadic and unpredictable, so you need to take the action when you get it. How many tables would you say it's necessary to be able to play to make good money (relative to grinding similar 6-max stakes with good win rate)? For somebody just starting out, what do you think is the smallest stake where it makes sense to play and learn (is the rake below mid stakes even beatable)? What top 3 sites would you recommend for starting out? Is Microgaming mid stakes worth playing with the €2 cap?

very cool podcast, is it really possible that he is this much better than the rest of the PLO crushers without putting in all the work with solvers etc outside of just sick volume?

lots of inspiration but i mean shiiiiet

Thanks for your time.

1. Will you share some of your hud stats?

2. What type of adjusting did you do well/frequently that your opponents didn't do enough (or maybe weren't capable) of?

3. What is/are the most common and easily correctable leak(s) you've observed among your opponents?

GameOver Luigi

Absolute Awesomeness :-) !!!!

what was the end result vs ben86 at the 2k ante tables?
was it xbooked ?

50:24-51:40 Joey makes a great point.

I got the impression that a lot of viewers felt that cumicon was flat/emotionless or even slightly negative, but I think some may miss that is the price of his success. Extreme success comes with extreme sacrifices, greatness comes at a cost, most would agree, but that means that when you end your journey you won't feel pure bliss, but rather a mixed bag of emotions - pride and satisfaction, but not without a lot of doubts and regrets. Similar to professional athletes who are admired or even worshiped worldwide, but what's not getting the adequate amount of media coverage is the toll their carreer takes on their health (probably the highest price with debilitating injuries and years taken out of their life expectancy), time and relationships/family (or lack thereof).

5 years of solitude to achieve true greatness in a field and be left with a lifetime of financial stability is a deal many would have taken. I admire what you have done, cumi and wish you the best of luck.

This.

What I saw was a tired man who had put lots of effort into something, made lots of sacrifices and now it was done. He was not yet filled with joy, but with relief. It's finally over.

Well said. Enjoyed the podcast!

Some insight from my experience w cumi over the years.. I think he had an insanely good knack for understanding where ppl's strategies were exploitable, both in terms of individual players and also the general field. The type of player that did a lot of folding out his entire bluff-catching range in spots or bluffing every single possible bluff candidate in spots (ie. a lot of exploitative-based plays) and less "I call because I'm at the top of my range" or "I bluff because I have the best bluff candidate" or "I can't bluff because I don't have the right blockers and it will mean I bluff too much" (ie. "I have to do X because GTO tells me I have to.)

This explains why the only guys that really gave him any trouble were guys that tried to play as GTO as possible. It also explains why his WR seems astronomically high.. as he was picking up a ton of exploitative based EV in a lot of spots that a lot of great GTO-type players would have missed. I think he also did a great job of following the lead of the more GTO-type guys over the years as those guys ran the sims to implement more balanced GTO-based strats in spots and cumi realized what they were doing was good. By the end, I think he was playing just as GTO in a lot of ways as most of the GTO guys are, just without having to run all the sims.

Love it. Guy is so real and humble and puts down all the bull**** that was spread by people like Doug Polk and jnandez about studying the game and coaching sites and whetever. He never rewieved hands, never studied away from tha table . Just hardore grinding , no bull****, no girlfriends , no life, just grind.

Also, about his playing style, i think he really developed a solid sticky style where he would crush all opponents that couldn't consistently follow through with their turn and river bluffs, had amazing reads to call more bluffs then value bets, his own agression was controlled but lethal, he would play a style where it looks like that he alwyas has it, yet his reads of opponents range was amazing , he didnt make very many mistakes. This is row experience of hands and situations he was in on daily basis for years, self control, huge bankroll to have no fear, all this resulted and developed into winning style and consistency that his graph is showing.

Thanks for doing the podcast. It's nice to put a face to a name in our profession
Also thanks for promoting HU PLO by posting your graph, I'm sure the regs will be scrambling to take your place . Enjoy snowboarding!

Also my interpretation of the situation. Cumi will need some decompression time. Hit him up next December after he's been shredding the mountains for a season and chasing snow bunnies.

Cheers, mate. gg

I would like to know can playing 90% of hands HU can be compared to defending big blind

close to that percentage in 6max game when there is single raiser?

I am pretty tight in blinds and that works fine for me,but after cumicon video i tried

to defend every big blind to a single raiser.That didn't go well,as i had feeling i was

outplayed or bluffed way to often.I`m curious to see other stats,spec fold to cbet flop or turn.

Cumi, what did u study in uni or rather what would u have studied if u hadn't quit for poker? It's like junglemans NHL HU graph but then for HU PLO.

This is the best result of the new era. Would be nice to see some PLO money rankings accross all sites.

I think you need to at least be able to to 2 table HU. I always preferred 3-4 tables, but I am often just 1 tabling because weak players typically don't play more than 1.

I don't have much of an idea of what the low stakes environment looks like. I have to think Microgaming would be a tough place to learn. The rake is very high, and its KoTH, so anyone sitting at those tables should be pretty solid. I would probably look into iPoker if I were you. Off the top of my head I think the rake is more reasonable than Stars/Micro and its not KoTH so there will be more weak bumhunter types that you can play.

1. I don't have my HEM with me right now, but off the top of my head my fold to cbet in SRP is something like 50/45/60. My cbet in SRP is somewhere in the 40-50% range on each street. Check raise flop/turn/river is somewhere between 5-9% on each street.

2. It's hard to say anything specific, any type of leak I would see from an opponent I would try to exploit. Also in general, I think a lot of regs are pretty bad at turning made hands into bluffs. They might find themselves in a spot on the river where they have a reasonable amount of showdown value so they check it down, but in reality they are very low in their range, and their range has few bluffs in it so they would be better off turning their hand into a bluff.

3. Again, it's hard to answer these general questions because everyone is so different.

We finished somewhere near even, don't remember exactly. PokerStars made out pretty well with the rake.

It was xbooked. Somewhere over $500/$1k I think, don't remember exactly.

I'm not too familiar with whats happening at 6max these days, but I'm pretty sure people are defending bb pretty wide.

I got a degree in accounting, but knew I would be playing poker full time when I was done with school.

Here are some of my questions. Any reply would be greatly appreciated

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Hi Cumicon,

In a 6-max setting, what do you think of open raising to less than pot (3xBB, 2xBB) assuming 100BB stacks are behind you.

In the same situation, would you ever fold any hand to a pot-sized 3bet? (eg., KKxx, AsTs4h9h?) that you opened?

Thank you