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07-27-2017 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BigAisaOK
People tend to think that 'ah rich recreationals don't care about stuff' but it's the total opposite
games with ridiculous rake wouldnt run if this was true
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07-29-2017 , 02:45 AM
These haifa Israel accounts on ACR are so strange. One of them min-bet and min-3bet for an hour earlier playing 8+ tables, work on your bot boys.

I had no idea so many people from Israel and Russia/Belarus played mid-stakes PLO until this site
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07-29-2017 , 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingnite
Are you renting your place? Mind me asking how much you are paying per month? Considering getting a place, dunno if I wanna rent or buy.
Renting atm -- it seems like the prices for towers on/just off the strip start at $1500-$2000 depending on the building and go up from there.

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
games with ridiculous rake wouldnt run if this was true
There will always be recreational players unaware of just how high the rake is compared to other games, unaware why rake matters, not care, etc. for these games to exist.
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07-29-2017 , 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
These haifa Israel accounts on ACR are so strange. One of them min-bet and min-3bet for an hour earlier playing 8+ tables, work on your bot boys.

I had no idea so many people from Israel and Russia/Belarus played mid-stakes PLO until this site
Which account was it papi? Please check this thread here where the same happened one week ago and we outed some bots already

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...89/index6.html

Anyone else thinking that ACR is changing some parameters in their code intentionally or something like this so this bug occurs to the bots?
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07-29-2017 , 05:23 AM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...89/index6.html

Last page Post #135 and beyond were posting about this. Please, please report your suspicions to WPN.

https://www.winningpokernetwork.com/security/
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07-29-2017 , 05:33 AM
Haha wtf, I would guess that the bots that got shut down before are out there near 100% with different parameters.

This account was from the same town as that crybaby ****bot PLOwned, not sure on the spelling. I haven't seen the account before.

My default is to assume every account is a bot until shown otherwise. Pick your poison with online poker these days if you still want to play. VPN/bots/2+accounting/superusers/collusion/middle men/untracked sites with random owners it is paradise

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07-30-2017 , 11:15 AM
2 nights ago was playing at 2 tables HU $5/10 PLO on Ignition and on both tables my opponent was folding 100% of hands preflop. Would time down maybe 3 seconds every time then just fold. 2nd time I've seen this here. Anyone else experience this? Thoughts on what it could mean?
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07-30-2017 , 11:24 AM
loool ^ how long did that go on for??
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07-30-2017 , 11:41 AM
This bot discussion is far from those of past
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07-30-2017 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
These haifa Israel accounts on ACR are so strange. One of them min-bet and min-3bet for an hour earlier playing 8+ tables, work on your bot boys.

I had no idea so many people from Israel and Russia/Belarus played mid-stakes PLO until this site
A couple of these accounts in low stakes as well
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07-30-2017 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by drexah
loool ^ how long did that go on for??
I would say for about total 100 hands, a 3rd player joined and the account in question kept folding then left after about 5 min.
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07-30-2017 , 05:13 PM
solid bb100
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07-30-2017 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cpar1
2 nights ago was playing at 2 tables HU $5/10 PLO on Ignition and on both tables my opponent was folding 100% of hands preflop. Would time down maybe 3 seconds every time then just fold. 2nd time I've seen this here. Anyone else experience this? Thoughts on what it could mean?
About a week ago I had this happen to me heads up on a 6 max table on WPN. No one folds every single hand heads up or they wouldn't even play in that circumstance. It was clearly a bot bug.

There seem to be a lot of PLO tables on WPN which seem out of line with the number of tables on other poker sites. Either WPN is blessed with most of todays PLO action or WPN is cursed with a serious bot infestation. Given the comments from above posters I'm betting it is a bot infestation.

The "colluding bots" theory has been a bit of a de-rail on if it is or isn't happening. But the action at some limits like PLO200 is on or off depending on a few players. When a few bots get banned at PLO200 there is almost no action for a couple of weeks, then new accounts show up and back to 6+ tables running. And the ban of a few bots at PLO200 sent a huge spike in the number of tables at PLO100 all the way down to PLO25. I mean a huge spike. Like the bot owners were trying to play low enough not to get detected but playing enough tables to still steal the amount of money they are use to stealing. This goes back to my previous paragraph, there seems to be a lot of WPN PLO action not found on most other sites.

Last edited by ladybruin; 07-30-2017 at 05:48 PM.
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07-30-2017 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cpar1
2 nights ago was playing at 2 tables HU $5/10 PLO on Ignition and on both tables my opponent was folding 100% of hands preflop. Would time down maybe 3 seconds every time then just fold. 2nd time I've seen this here. Anyone else experience this? Thoughts on what it could mean?
This also happens to me two nights ago for around 110 hands in one table. Bot also was in two other tables
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08-03-2017 , 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ChicagoJoey
Congrats what type of business is it??

The action online these days is much more spread out amongst various types of platforms. It's fascinating to me how things are evolving. With Party/888 making a push for relevancy again and RIO poker in the works at some point, I'm very interested to see how the PLO cash game ecosystem turns out.
Hi Joey, sorry for delay, only just seen your reply to me!

I set up an estate agency business in the UK (real estate I guess for you 'Mericans ) just over 3 years ago. It was super hard work at first (literally worked every day in the first year), but now I'm down to 3 or 4 days a week (depending how busy) as I've got a great team. It feels like a major relief to know that I don't have to worry about sitting in front of a computer screen for hours on end trying to get by financially! Also, on the other hand, I'm very proud knowing that poker helped me get to this position.

I don't miss playing online at all but I do miss the banter I used to have with fellow regs. Was never a big Stars player, but played FTP heaps and also various euro sites (SkyPoker was my favourite. So, so soft back in the day). Still friends with some of the players I met whilst playing.

Nice to see you're having such a good time in Vegas! Went to WSOP for the first time last year and absolutely loved it. Met some really cool people and the ME was just sick, the softest field I've ever played. Cash games were amazing too and that got me the bug back to play live. Will definitely be going to WSOP again.

The bots talk in this thread is a classic example of why I wanted to get out of online. Would be nice to see the big name sites do more about it, but I guess they couldn't care less as long as they're getting paid. Hopefully RIO does come online and cleans things up with a sensible rake, but the main problem I see is an even more reg infested play pool meaning the games are likely to be nittier and recs will lose faster while having less fun punting?
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08-03-2017 , 09:28 PM
would anyone be interested in a high stakes PLO fantasy football league? thinking $200-$500 buyin depending on level of interest
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08-04-2017 , 05:26 AM
so we hope for RIO Poker to have less collusion/bots but more regs¿?
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08-04-2017 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by HUstylez
would anyone be interested in a high stakes PLO fantasy football league? thinking $200-$500 buyin depending on level of interest
yes, but would be nice if you could explain how it would work exactly
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08-08-2017 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HUstylez
would anyone be interested in a high stakes PLO fantasy football league? thinking $200-$500 buyin depending on level of interest
i'd def be in
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08-08-2017 , 06:16 PM
Football means football or eggball?
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08-09-2017 , 11:49 AM
Flopped Middle set with 3k in front of me at 5/5, get led into for 3/4 pot by a reg I've played with for years, put in a pot sized raise, he re-raises slightly less than 3x. I tank and fold, his eyes go wide and he says "really?" shows top set.
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08-09-2017 , 08:31 PM
NH
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08-09-2017 , 10:53 PM
This is the first time I haven't seen ANY of the sus eastern euro accounts on at AT ANY LIMIT on ACR. There are a few that play the micros as well.

I kind of miss them
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08-10-2017 , 01:25 AM
^ policy change or freak coincidence?
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08-10-2017 , 01:04 PM
No idea what the GTO way to post ACR hands on here so we came up with this. Thanks to Anfiield for the assist

Good turn

Hand Information
No Limit Omaha, 30 BB (4 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com

Table Information
Seat: 2 igrabu ($2020.12) Small Blind
Seat: 4 chicagojoey ($3927) Big Blind
Seat: 5 skrrr skrrr ($3464.72)
Seat: 6 andrew neeme ($8596.52) Dealer
Dealt to


Preflop (Pot:45)
skrrr skrrr****FOLD
andrew neeme****RAISE $105
igrabu****FOLD
chicagojoey****CALL $75

Flop(Pot: $225)
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chicagojoey****CHECK
andrew neeme****BET $120
chicagojoey****RAISE $390
andrew neeme****RAISE $1020
chicagojoey****RAISE $3282.75
andrew neeme****RAISE $5545.5
chicagojoey****ALL-IN
andrew neeme****RETURN $1723.5

Turn(Pot: $10732.5)
****


River(Pot: $10732.5)
*****

Showdown:
chicagojoey SHOWS
****
andrew neeme SHOWS
****
igrabu**wins the pot: $10732.5
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