Honestly i'm just a fun player + fulltime student on a huge heater(with a 6-10bi stoploss) with no plans of going pro or studying the game. I just think great players giving their thoughts on strange/marginal call/fold spots etc sound really interesting. Kinda like doing chess tactics puzzles for example.

What i'd like to discuss isn't the math at all, more like the creation of the ranges themselves. I'd like to discuss things like: "what hands can we completely erradicate from his range because of his flop and turn action" for example, and how great plo players think about these things.

I can sit here and make ranges and do math all day, but if the ranges I come up with are wrong then my work is useless anyways.

But looks like poker has come to the point where this won't happen anymore on a public forum, which is kinda sad and probably bad for poker leading forwards.

It's not bad for poker moving forwards. It's an indication of the stage it has already reached.

It would be fun if 5-10 years from now in a hypothetical world high stakes poker was populated by 75% chinese people because they continued discussing hands and expanding knowledge on native forums even after reaching a high personal level. This seems farfetched atm of course because there has been no poker boom in china yet. But if this boom comes and they get a load of hardworking players moving up the stakes, and these players use their version of 2+2 effectively....

Lets say we divided high stakes poker right now down the middle in 2 factions. Faction 1 would post spots that raised question marks for them and all players were forced to write out opinions and discuss said spots at least fairly regularly. Faction 2 would continue as poker is now, no public discussion and only possibly some very small study groups. Of course faction 2 would have no insight into faction 1's work.

Over under on 12 months and >50% of faction 2 is no longer a winning high stakes player unless insane game selecting? Or are high stakes players here cocky enough to claim that they have come so far on their game that they feel like it would stand the test of time against a community continually expanding and sharing their knowledge?

Will high stakes poker in the future be run by the best small study group expanding on their combined game knowledge? Are many high stakes pros shooting themselves in the foot by not being in such a group right now or at least trying to be the first person to start one up?

Is it really GTO for high stakes players to be selfish? In my example above with the two factions, faction 1 is obviously more GTO than faction 2.

Most just talk in private about strategy so they keep on learning but don't share with all leachers in public forums.

This scenario is what keep's Oddsen up at night

What kepps oddsn up at nights?
comming chinese multi grinders?

a bit optimistic

#johanforaday

GTO 101 by Ben86

you wouldn't have stood a chance if he had flopped a set

fyp

I filled out that form at the cashier two weeks ago and didn't get my moneys yet(~20k). Too ealry to be worried?

Also who were all those Hungarians over there? Think we had like 5-6 on one table at some point.

Have recived my wire now

Basically mixture of online and live players. From online players only omaha4rollz,zsipali and me were there who play higher stakes plo and we had some small stakes friends as well plus the above mentioned live players what stakes were u playing?

Them setups

Poker Player Snapshot – Christopher “CeeGee” George – Isildur and Gus are underrated

ceegee sounds like an awesome guy


want to meet

Yeah no one plays tough players at high stakes mix anymore *cough* joiso *cough* Thuritz

No Limit Omaha Cash Alex? Wut

These kind of hands are (to me) by far the most fun in PLO. I enjoy these so much more than some random aaxx hand going in pre. Also sick to have by far the best hand in this spot after making a call that feels so fishy. Had 34% vs 23% for kk, 22.5% for aa and 21% for broadway rundown.

^punts in with nice double suited, double paired hands. Happens to be small eq fav, becomes most 'interesting type of hand' 😆

fun was his describing word
and small eq fav

please

PokerStars Hand #133693434607: 5 Card Omaha Pot Limit ($25/$50 USD) - 2015/04/14 0:05:40 ET
Table 'Ajax II' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: x ($4572.75 in chips)
Seat 5: WithColor ($5648 in chips)
WithColor: posts small blind $25
x: posts big blind $50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to WithColor [4s Qd Qs 7s 6h]
WithColor: raises $100 to $150
x: calls $100
*** FLOP *** [Ah 6c 6d]
x: checks
WithColor: bets $100
x: raises $150 to $250
WithColor: calls $150
*** TURN *** [Ah 6c 6d] [5h]
x: bets $275
WithColor: calls $275
*** RIVER *** [Ah 6c 6d 5h] [4h]
x: checks
WithColor: bets $650
x: folds [2h 6s 3h]
Uncalled bet ($650) returned to WithColor
WithColor collected $1349.50 from pot
WithColor: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1350 | Rake $0.50
Board [Ah 6c 6d 5h 4h]
Seat 2: x (big blind) folded on the River

Sick 27 BB pot. Glad it was easy to read the hand