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nice -6k$ session. I havent got my PC with my, but i think my ev line is somewhere +5k lol

example

$3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($600)
UTG+1 ($1,384.95)
Hero (CO) ($1,892.92)
BTN ($401.05)
SB ($407.94)
BB ($932.45)

Pre-Flop: ($9, 6 players) Hero is CO 9

2 folds, Hero raises to $12, BTN calls $12, 1 fold, BB calls $6

Flop: J

($39, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $30, BTN folds, BB raises to $90, Hero raises to $307.24, BB goes all-in $920.45, Hero calls $613.21

Turn: 10

($1,879.90, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: 8

($1,879.90, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $1,879.90
Hero shows a full house, Jacks full of Eights
9

BB shows four of a kind, Eights
8

BB wins $1,877.10 (net +$944.65)

Hero lost $932.45
BTN lost $12

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02-27-2012 , 03:43 AM

#11352

hotcocacola

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FML, im getting sick assrape this month. Puke.exe

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02-27-2012 , 05:29 AM

#11353

Your Mom

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worst thing - playing 3 handed with one other decent player and a total spewtard. other guy wins 5 buyins, you break even.

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02-27-2012 , 12:25 PM

#11354

gamboneee

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Originally Posted by Bikini Wax

right click button kinda peeled off, its semi functional but retired atm

proud supporter of logitech imo

logitech almost always rma's stuff for free fwiw. takes about a week and you dont have to send your old one back in

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02-27-2012 , 12:51 PM

#11355

gavz101

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Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,453

BLEH! gg nosebleeds. Moving down to recover. Poker is hard. I hope Ben and Ben win all the moneyz. Gump can have some too.

Maybe someone can gif this hand for me, considering I was grossly under-rolled in those games and it hurt.

Poker Stars, $100/$200, $40 ante Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12018262

Ilari FIN (BB): $126,151.50 (630.8 bb)
0Human0 (UTG): $23,335 (116.7 bb)
LuckyGump (MP): $52,858.55 (264.3 bb)
Hero (CO): $101,585 (507.9 bb)
Jeans89 (BTN): $22,640 (113.2 bb)
mTw-DaviN (SB): $33,743.95 (168.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

2 folds, Hero raises to $600, 2 folds, Ilari FIN raises to $2,140, Hero raises to $6,760, Ilari FIN raises to $20,620, Hero calls $13,860

Flop: ($41,580) 5

(2 players)
Ilari FIN bets $41,575, Hero raises to $80,925 and is all-in, Ilari FIN calls $39,350

Turn: ($203,430) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($203,430) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler:

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

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02-27-2012 , 02:36 PM

#11356

M0n3y0nf$r3

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MATT111

I think that apart from that aiev always overestimates how bad a winning player is running.
I just give you a quick example: Say you are playing a fish HU who has 1bi to lose. Now you can (a) crush him right in the first hand so your ev is somewhere in between +/-1bi. Or you can (b) run really bad at first until you finally win his 1 stack. Now your EV might show you should be up 10bi or sth while in reality all you can win from the weaker player is 1.

While unable to prove it mathematically, I don't believe this example proves overestimation of how bad a winning player is running.

It does show one instance where your AIEV will be higher than your average EV in a match. There are numerous situations where your AIEV will be much lower than your average EV of a match. Random example: Fish coolers you for two stacks and splits.

Additionally, I don't think the source of the Fish's funds matter. How do you have less EV in a match where the Fish ran up his stack on you compared to having run up the stack on another reg and then sitting with you?

And finally, I believe theories surrounding independent events would not support your position.

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02-27-2012 , 03:02 PM

#11357

Zacharrrr

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wow gavz was that one of the biggest pots you ever played?

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02-27-2012 , 03:41 PM

#11358

j.a.o.p.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gavz101

2 folds, Hero raises to $600, 2 folds, Ilari FIN raises to $2,140, Hero raises to $6,760, Ilari FIN raises to $20,620, Hero calls $13,860

Flop: ($41,580) 5

(2 players)
Ilari FIN bets $41,575, Hero raises to $80,925 and is all-in, Ilari FIN calls $39,350

Turn: ($203,430) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($203,430) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler:

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

( ) Ilari has a 2figure 5bet-range.....
( ) tilt

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02-27-2012 , 03:58 PM

#11359

TGSM89

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sad to see gavz, gl coming back

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02-27-2012 , 04:27 PM

#11360

yeaFMLdegen

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gavz, hope u turn it around. gl man

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02-27-2012 , 04:41 PM

#11361

Zacharrrr

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NO STRAT IN BBV
NO STRAT IN BBV
NO STRAT IN BBV
NO STRAT IN BBV
NO STRAT IN BBV
NO STRAT IN BBV
NO STRAT IN BBV

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02-27-2012 , 04:52 PM

#11362

Karls_Hungus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gavz101

Jeans89 (BTN): $22,640 (113.2 bb)
mTw-DaviN (SB): $33,743.95 (168.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

2 folds, Hero raises to $600, 2 folds, Ilari FIN raises to $2,140,

Hero raises to $6,760, Ilari FIN raises to $20,620, Hero calls $13,860

Flop: ($41,580) 5

(2 players)

Ilari FIN bets $41,575, Hero raises to $80,925 and is all-in, Ilari FIN calls $39,350

Ilari FIN showed A

and won $203,425 ($101,840 net)

Turn: ($203,430) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

River: ($203,430) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler:

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

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02-27-2012 , 04:58 PM

#11363

Khal Drogo

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The wrestler's face is perfect

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02-27-2012 , 05:02 PM

#11364

TGSM89

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mclovin is hilarious

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02-27-2012 , 06:32 PM

#11365

gavz101

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haha thanks

made me feel better

zach - only played a handful bigger i think

i particularly enjoyed katy perry

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02-27-2012 , 06:36 PM

#11366

Zeestein

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yah I had a similar hand in a live game for like 37k

just called 3b with KK78dd vs matty

came 752dd, just got it in flop as i ldo crush his range

he had exactly AA96dd

not nice

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02-27-2012 , 06:55 PM

#11367

hotcocacola

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hotcocacola

2 folds, Hero raises to $12, BTN calls $12, 1 fold, BB calls $6

Flop: J

($39, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $30, BTN folds, BB raises to $90, Hero raises to $307.24, BB goes all-in $920.45, Hero calls $613.21

Turn: 10

($1,879.90, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: 8

($1,879.90, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $1,879.90
Hero shows a full house, Jacks full of Eights
9

BB shows four of a kind, Eights
8

BB wins $1,877.10 (net +$944.65)

Hero lost $932.45
BTN lost $12

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Originally Posted by hotcocacola

FML, im getting sick assrape this month. Puke.exe

i sent my HH to home to get the ****ing graph.
just puke.exe, yesterdays session (EV@ 5035$)

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02-27-2012 , 07:16 PM

#11368

shipit2kg

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Khal Drogo

The wrestler's face is perfect

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02-27-2012 , 09:09 PM

#11369

urubu111

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wow gavz... 203.... sick one. huge pot.

btw, sry to hear you moving down, gl.

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02-28-2012 , 03:07 AM

#11370

hotcocacola

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hotcocacola

i sent my HH to home to get the ****ing graph.
just puke.exe, yesterdays session (EV@ 5035$)

FML, today vol 2....same ****.
Cant go down in stakes, bcause tables are so ****ing great. Am i only one who says that?

FMLFMLFMLFML

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02-28-2012 , 08:36 AM

#11371

CZI

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You lose 6k and you gotta move down in stakes?

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02-28-2012 , 09:07 AM

#11372

hotcocacola

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-13k in 24h.
and -25k about 2 weeks

but i had normal 3k session @2-4, so...cant go under 2-4, il be total spewtard lol

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02-28-2012 , 09:23 AM

#11373

JackWraith

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40BI swongs arent easy on the mindset. just play .05/.10 for 12 hours straigth and push every hand. post graph here!

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02-28-2012 , 10:00 AM

#11374

urubu111

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damn...

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $400(BB) Replayer
Hero ($16,443)
($40,000)

Dealt to Hero A

raises to $40,000 (AI), Hero calls $16,043 (AI)

FLOP ($32,887) 3

TURN ($32,887) 3

RIVER ($32,887) 3

shows 6

(Pre 43%, Flop 21.3%, Turn 11.4%)

Hero shows A

(Pre 57%, Flop 78.7%, Turn 88.6%)

wins $32,885

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02-28-2012 , 10:06 AM

#11375

HurtK

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Quote:

Originally Posted by urubu111

damn...

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $400(BB) Replayer
Hero ($16,443)
($40,000)

Dealt to Hero A

raises to $40,000 (AI), Hero calls $16,043 (AI)

FLOP ($32,887) 3

TURN ($32,887) 3

RIVER ($32,887) 3

shows 6

(Pre 43%, Flop 21.3%, Turn 11.4%)

Hero shows A

(Pre 57%, Flop 78.7%, Turn 88.6%)

wins $32,885

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