Soft Live Game 10/25. Hero on SB AsKdQsTh with 3000. 4 limpers. Hero raise to 150 . 3 callers Pot 600. The opponents are fishy regs and I have an image of tight wining player.

Flop: QdTs5d. Hero?
What the best line here with this stack size? Bet/Check-raise All-in/Call and push on good tern?

I checked the flop. MP bet Pot and LP called. I decided to call with intention to push a good Tern cards. Tern Ks. Not the best card but I have a lot equity now with 3 pairs, NFLD and Gut Shot. 40% vs straight. And I can represent AJ for the nuts. I push All-in.

I would like to here any thoughts about the hand on Flop and Tern.

Just bet it yourself; if they bet wide enough to make a c/r viable, they likely also get it in Vs a bet wide enough. You're not deep enough to do anything but get it in as played given you've got less than pot left. Not enough safe turns.

As played I guess i lead the turn too.

Continuing the story is the only option, deny any equity that you can and you probably have enough to call off.

Pre is good. I raise very sparingly in this position, but we have a strong hand with both playability and raw equity. That being said I would raise smaller, but pot is fine too against the right field.


I don't mind your line on the flop. As opposed to getting it in immediately this will reduce variance and we have pretty good visibility, liking any queen, ten, non diamond jack, or non diamond 76432. We also have backdoor spades, which gives us a bit more incentive to see a turn. We're going to have a substantial equity shift on the turn and it's unlikely we'll mistakenly fold a winner especially multiway. Betting the flop is probably "standard", we have a strong hand, want to charge draws or inferior made hands, and don't want to give any free cards with our likely winner but vulnerable hand. We can stack off vs all but the nittiest villains and often the flop will go bet call (or bet call call call) and we'll be in good shape to play a turn.

We can't fold the turn. We could check, hoping perhaps that J9 or TTT checks through. Most likely it won't matter as somebody probably has the straight anyway. I guess I do favour check though, I think LP is more likely to have the straight and MP might be more inclined to call after he sees us call it off vs LP rather than if we jam our selves.

With your image I have no issue leading this Flop. You actually have a better hand than they would expect here IMO. I like the Qd out there since even a K-high flush draw may assume you have the A-high. If a flush draw calls they probably can't be 'ahead' currently either.

You block two sets and have plenty of draws against all other holdings. I plan to lead 400 Flop, then 8-900 Turn (with only one caller) .. leaving 1600 into 3000 for good Rivers, which offers 3 to 1 on a call.

If someone gets busy, then we have a decision OTF, no decision OTT (it goes in).

Most Players only have three actions .. check, call or pot (occasionally fold). With a nice tight winning image IMO you don't need to signal the GII alarm and a bet of $400 should make everyone pay attention while still leaving enough behind to use if you really think you need to. It may also prevent a 'pot' behind you when it's going to be a task to improve. Yes, we may get bluffed off our hand OTT by a flush card, but it would have been at a cheaper price.

Obv AP with this Turn and, even if you had led, there are so many Turns that still allow you to feel comfortable OOP.

Shoving (2250 into 2425) Turn AP? It's probably best, but do you want to 'offer' odds or 'deny' them? Certainly a missed opportunity if it checks through and you bink the River.

With your image how many 'currently' worse hands are following your lead on the Turn? Only you know what MP/LP are prone to do here and if you feel even one of them will bet I think I'd rather try for 3 to 1 on my equity than 'force' a fold from one of them due to my image. It's a risk either way .. Leading Turn 'pot' might get 55xx to fold and then you beat a draw on a brick with 2-pair.

I think we can check turn and hope for action .. thus keeping more hands that are behind in the pot than if we are to shove.

I'm just of the opinion that PLO doesn't need to be GII asap all the time, even at 125BB. Use your image and 'value' bet the Flop with some pot control or c/c Flop and Donk Turn. Your holding is vulnerable to any card 8+ and all diamonds. Right now you only have 7 'super' outs to go with the shared Board equity of the 8+ non diamonds.

This pot is easily won (in my game) if you lead Flop and Turn is a blank without risking your whole stack. Inflating the pot OTF may raise the attachment softies have to their holdings. While I agree you have both an image and range advantage going into most Rivers there's nothing wrong with taking a pot down to build your stack leaving a little value on the table for the next hand. GL

I check high frequency in this post. I like a x/r.

Our hand gets it in well, but getting called we have a very tough SPR for our hand on a lot of turns. Also protecting range is neat, but I know there's a lot of disagreements about that, so, eh.

I mean check/bet this hand both at some frequency but given the action if I check flop I’m c/r. With the caller in between over calling seems bad here and your oop ott so kinda hard to play well. Spots like these you just got to shove and hops no one can call with very little information

On the turn you are up against 2 or 3 opponents correct?

You called it a soft game, if on turn you bet all in, then it is a bad play if only one player calls and an awesome play if 2+ players call. I use the potential equity flip as a decider, the more the merrier, if you are up against 1 or 2 opponents in hand I check, but if you are up against 3 opponents in hand, then I bet all in.

When you say this hand, do you mean the exact combo, or like, QT in general? I tend to prefer to not mix very much as it's hard to really apply. Gutshot and Kd, basically, I think really favours a check. It'd be a mix HU though, so I am sure you're right.