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The stack-to-pot (SPR) is about 40, but since this hand is heads up on the flop, your entire stack is NOT at risk unless you decide to bet or raise at some point against this maniac. If post-flop you never bet or raise, then the SPR is 13, not 40.
An SPR of 1 means that there is one pot-sized bet left; an SPR of 4 means there is enough left for two pot-sized bets heads up or a pot-sized bet and a pot-sized raise; an SPR of 13 is the equivalent of three pot-sized bets heads up. If post-flop you never bet or raise, then all the maniac can do is make pot-sized bets on the flop, turn and river for a total of three pot-sized bets (an SPR of 13).
Note that if the effective SPR is over 13, and only two players contest the pot after the flop, the only way for all the money to go in is if somebody puts in a raise at some point in the hand.
You also have the positional advantage. All the maniac can do is make this an SPR 13 sized hand, but you get to cherry pick when it becomes an SPR 40 sized hand. Choose wisely.
What would I do? Calling down all the way unless I make a full house+. On this particular hand, for me the flop is always a call. The turn or river are where you get the chance to cherry pick playing for stacks which on this particular hand are my full house+. And since I know I'm calling down every hand (raising full house), I am not taking my eyes off the maniac, I want to see how he reacts to an ace, king or queen hitting the board, because I might not raise my Jack's full if I get a tell that he made a higher full house.
Some people in this thread have recommended loosely raising on the flop. Be careful turning an SPR 13 situation into an SPR 40 situation. Also the maximum buy-in structure at the table is important. You said you started this hand with 1,000bb. If there is a cap on the buy-in and you needlessly donk off 1,000bb on this hand and can only rebuy for 200-300bb, then you are going to be hating life staring at the maniac/whale's deep stack compared to your rebuy stack.
Too long didn't read...heads up on the flop, the worse the maniac can do if you never bet or raise is get you for about 300bb of your 1,000bb stack. You can cherry pick when to get him for his whole 1,000bb.
Last edited by ladybruin; 09-21-2020 at 02:28 PM.