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09-07-2017 , 10:07 PM
V1 comes often, likes to gamble. V2 unknown. Hero is tight.
2/5 PLO
Button straddle 10.
Hero: $850
V1: $1050
V2: $1800


Hero raises to $35 UTG w AsKcTs9c
V1 in Cutoff raises to $100
V2 on button calls
Hero calls
Flop AcKs3s.
Hero bets $225
V1 raises to $950 all in.
V2 folds.
Hero?

How do you like my line?
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09-08-2017 , 12:34 AM
Depends what V'1s 3 bet frequency is like. If hes only doing this with KK+ then check calliing is better. If he is wide then check raising. Not sure the c bet is necessary here as you dont need to protect your hand here as you have such a massive redraw. You want weaker flsuhes etc coming in here which button might have but we lose that dead money option by leading and CO reraising
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09-08-2017 , 02:14 AM
leading is superbad
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09-08-2017 , 04:33 AM
why do you think leading into into this particular player after he 3bet is best on this AKx board?
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09-08-2017 , 06:27 AM
Rational for leading is it's less likely V1 or V2 has AA or KK since I block both of those. Plus, I want wraps and weaker flush draws to invest money on their draws.
Assuming V1 is an extremely tight 3bettor pre, lucaspawpaw16, you believe the x/call, x/call stack on turn is better??
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09-08-2017 , 03:34 PM
As played you have to call the raise. You have 33% equity or so against a set of aces, over 40% equity against a set of kings, are basically freerolling AK and are ahead if he somehow has a set of 3s.

I like checking in this spot. When you think about the hands he can have, check-raising is almost always better then bet/calling. If he has a set of aces or a set of kings, given how strong your hand is you're going to get it in either way. If he whiffed, then check-raising allows you to hopefully get another bet out of him. If he has AKxx, then you're free rolling him. He's probably calling your lead but also calling your check-raise. And if he has a wrap (basically only AQJT or KQJT in a 3-bet pot), you can force him to make a bad call by check raising.

Check calling has merits too.
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09-08-2017 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MIB211
If he whiffed, then check-raising allows you to hopefully get another bet out of him.
What if he never bets when he whiffs (only bets two pair plus and good draws) and calls a bet with some hands he would check behind (like AQJ9)?
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09-08-2017 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BDHarrison
What if he never bets when he whiffs (only bets two pair plus and good draws) and calls a bet with some hands he would check behind (like AQJ9)?
We can get value on turn/river v. those hands (the hand you listed has 2 outs,), but if V is never going to bet when he whiffs betting obviously looks better.
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09-08-2017 , 06:01 PM
he often improves to 2nd best hands, which we want.
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09-09-2017 , 04:55 AM
Leading is pretty terrible obv, you lose all kinds of equity by leading, but i think you ae just happy to take it down on the flop anyway.
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09-09-2017 , 09:11 AM
Obv not folding now. Lead is whatever. Prolly go alot smaller.
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09-10-2017 , 06:02 PM
top 2 with the NFD and asking what to do?

is this a level?

Last edited by br3nt00; 09-10-2017 at 06:03 PM. Reason: add backdoor clubs
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09-11-2017 , 09:17 AM
4b pre
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09-11-2017 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by AveeMaria
4b pre
Yeah 4b pre is an atrocious play.
I ended up getting it in on the flop.
Villain had AA, and the board paired with a 3 on the turn.
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09-11-2017 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by VerdantDevil
Yeah 4b pre is an atrocious play.
I ended up getting it in on the flop.
Villain had AA, and the board paired with a 3 on the turn.
not really, but leading certainly is
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09-12-2017 , 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted by VerdantDevil
Yeah 4b pre is an atrocious play.
I ended up getting it in on the flop.
Villain had AA, and the board paired with a 3 on the turn.
Lol, evidently gii otf was equally atrocious. Who stacks off with top 2 + fd against super obv AA?!?!
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09-12-2017 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AveeMaria
Who stacks off with top 2 + fd against super obv AA?!?!
Everybody who didn't fail high school math. Hero needs less than 30% equity to call it off and even has slightly better than 30% in the worst case scenario of villain having AhAdQsJs to take away spade and backdoor broadway outs.
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09-12-2017 , 11:52 PM
leading is terrible, as played you need to call.

Check calling is more optimal.
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09-13-2017 , 01:31 AM
Check call > check raise >>>>>>>>> finding a fly in your food at the local casino >>>>> lead
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09-13-2017 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by madlex
Everybody who didn't fail high school math. Hero needs less than 30% equity to call it off and even has slightly better than 30% in the worst case scenario of villain having AhAdQsJs to take away spade and backdoor broadway outs.
I guess they didn't teach satire at your highschool.
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09-13-2017 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by AveeMaria
I guess they didn't teach satire at your highschool.
can we see a gag-off between you two?
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09-13-2017 , 10:22 AM
Lol, I don't think that means what you think it does. At least not where I'm from. Either way, it's not necessary. Gl op, madlex et al.
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09-13-2017 , 10:27 AM
I am a seasoned linguist
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09-21-2017 , 12:26 AM
Ai
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