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I would like to bet my roll on the assumption that if the same post was made by anyone else but CTS, 2+2 would go bajunky and say "ok hf playing only AA idiot".

haha this.

i am also shocked w/ folding pre flop.. imo its a 3bet (or call) first time and def a snap call after someone 3bet and other calls.

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04-12-2010 , 04:57 PM

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chinaski101

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I dont see anyone folding this pre.

Fold the river.
Kinda like the idea of leading the flop.

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04-12-2010 , 05:12 PM

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iggymcfly

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Jesus, I didn't even notice this was double-suited when people were saying to fold it. Yeah, that would be insane.

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04-12-2010 , 05:16 PM

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cts

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you guys are right, i don't think the hand plays particularly well and we are out of position against a good player, but equity-wise it is way too strong to fold (top 7%)

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04-12-2010 , 05:26 PM

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CZI

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It looks very pretty and shiny, but the playability of this hand OOP is very bad. Lots of Kxx/Qxx flops which are very annoying to continue on when you got a pocket pair in your sidecards. Lots of FD flops which are a pain in the ass to play OOP.

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04-12-2010 , 05:27 PM

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Praetor

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Pretty sick that KQ99 ds is top 7%, and KQ99 single suited is top 18%

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04-12-2010 , 05:33 PM

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Micturition Man

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I think I fold to the second raise actually. Not sure if I'm being influenced by CTS' comment though.

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04-12-2010 , 05:52 PM

#33

CZI

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If I called the first time, I'm def not folding to the 3bet closing the action with good relative position. I think the hand plays a lot better with lower SPRs.

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04-12-2010 , 06:32 PM

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Micturition Man

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Originally Posted by CZI

If I called the first time, I'm def not folding to the 3bet closing the action with good relative position. I think the hand plays a lot better with lower SPRs.

Yeah but it plays a lot worse versus a solid 3-betting range.

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04-13-2010 , 01:19 PM

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4CardGrind

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KKQ8 + diamonds gavz. Your flop play is good vs. me given check, but leading is probably better given size of pot.

Turn I misplayed imo, should be shoving, river seems like too 'bad' a spot for me to bluff because I rep very little, which... I think makes it a good spot to bluff given you know this, and know me, and wouldn't expect me to make a poor bluff.

In truth this hand just doesn't play out as bet/check/bet very often at all though.

Oh... and PF looks standard to me.

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04-13-2010 , 05:58 PM

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krmont22

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folding second time around would be lighting money on fire

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04-13-2010 , 06:23 PM

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Micturition Man

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Originally Posted by 4CardGrind

To me the leveling stuff is not really to the point. The bigger concern is how narrow the hands that beat you that are folding relative to whatever hand he might hero call with or c-rz.

He almost needs to have exactly K9 here.

OTOH it's possible he's just never calling.

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04-13-2010 , 11:23 PM

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NeverScaredB

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Are people advocating a lead bet/folding? It seems really hard for anyone to fold any AdBdBB, set with extras, etc. to our flop lead, but someone has the nuts fairly often as well.

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04-14-2010 , 09:59 AM

#39

HeyEveryone

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Originally Posted by Praetor

Pretty sick that KQ99 ds is top 7%, and KQ99 single suited is top 18%

Can someone link me to the program you are using to find this out?

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04-15-2010 , 05:15 AM

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Hattifnatt

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Originally Posted by HeyEveryone

Can someone link me to the program you are using to find this out?

+1, anyone care to explain?

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