Long time reader, but I pretty much never post. I'm trying to get better at PLO as all of the local games have transitioned and there is just soooooo much bad play and money to be made. Need some help!

Played a lot with villain, 30ish white guy, tight aggressive but overall pretty decent player. He has lost the last few pots after opponent draws hit, and he seems to be steaming a little.

We are playing 6 handed with lots of button straddles. Hero is C/O with $1200, villain is btn with $290.

Hero has AdKdTc8s

Villain straddles for $10, BB calls $10, Hero raises to $30, villain Pots to $105. Hero calls, BB folds ($230ish pot).

Villain now has $185 left and Hero covers.

Flop is Ks4d4c

Hero?

I assume we check here and let villain shove. Question is, with the Ace and King, are we happy in this spot? I'm not sure we can bet because we want our villain to continue repping AA or KK, so I feel that a bet only gets called by a hand that beats us. I feel like we should give him the opportunity to shove his range, but I really don't know.

Furthermore, how do we play differently if villain has $500? $1000?

Thanks!

skill relative to you is all that matters... there might not be as much money to be made as you think.
1) tptk + bdfd on a locked down board.
2) villains has about 0.8 spr... not even a psb left...
uhhh... of course we are happy, if you aren't happy with that flop then what the **** did you call his preflop raise for? To fold everything but a AAA flop? This is top 10% of flops possible against a guy who basically stuck all his money in preflop. JFC not to be rude but maybe the forum should be split into "begginer level plo" and "advanced plo" rather than SS and HS. SS hands are capable of having interesting spots and as so many threads prove just because the hand was played at 500PLO doesn't mean you should waste time in HSPLO to ask what 1+1 is. I guess maybe I was rude but you did kinda call "soooo many players" bad and then ask a ridiculous question.

I think this response is the reason a lot of people don't post here. I've learned a lot by reading some if these posts, but damn man, why so condescending?

Maybe "beginner" and "advanced" would be a better breakdown... But given the breakdown I chose to post here because of the stakes, my bad I guess?

The bad play that I was referring to was mostly lots of calling down with bottom 2 and no redraws, or getting married to overpairs on draw heavy boards. Literally terrible play that is very profitable for anyone playing with common sense. That's pretty much my approach, common sense as I don't go chasing or calling everything. I prefaced by saying that I'm newer to the game, and I obviously called in this situation. I was more interested in how we act if villain was deeper (lead, c/c or check/raise).

Thanks for "some" input anyway.

hsplo is a grumpy community

stfu

HSPLO has always had a reputation for being full of grumpy b***ards since I started posting on 2p2, theory goes that it's the variance, not sure I agree. I stopped posting strat on here a while ago for visibility reasons, I think a lot of other people did and certainly don't post their own HHs, with the result that the opportunity for quality discussion goes down. What with the popularity of PLO going up, that means the signal-noise ratio has plummeted and people miss quality discussion and are just venting.

Regarding the hand, you suspect villain of steaming, he's straddled and has started the hand with 29bbs, go ahead and give him all your action preflop. #mustbetopqualityadvicegivenineverpoststrat

Ya man just get it in. And ya this forum is a bit more ornery but there are some posters I talk to from time to time via pm (wazz) that impart helpful input.

I started posting here beginning this year and was requesting bankroll requirement guides to play in a big local home game. I learned I was too conservative with my.risk mitigation and.since loosening up and increasing my stop loss, my profits have soared and I've even been banned from some games. Without the help of some.of the posters here I would not be in this spot so I do appreciate the posters.

Thanks Wazz and Nutsider

Yeah I suspected he was steaming but he actually woke up with a huge one. Either way, I wasn't upset about it and thought it was the right play, just wanted to see what others thought. Thanks!

It's easy to be a condescending a-hole behind a keyboard, but it goes with the online age of young tards acting tuff.

if im folding anywhere it's preflop but that seems really nitty. I either play it the same or just shove preflop if i think ace high or pair of tens/eights might be good on certain boards and don't want to fold incorrectly OTF.

I think why certain people get aggravated @ posts like this is because the question is geared at what they see as a relatively simple situation where other parts of the hand seem more debatable. When you're deciding whether or not to call a bet like this PF what i would focus on is which flops are you going to call OTF (Since it is 1 of these spots where you know he's committed and shoving the flop a large % of the time). If this flop is not good enough then you need to fold PF. There's a site called odds oracle that shows what % of flops you have at least a certain % against a range I would just plug in hands/ranges to that and it will help more then people in this thread. I don't know if there's a good way to find out what the worst flops are for x% but rough estimates can be found w/o programming.

really? i had the opposite impression - that hsplo was, by and large, a pretty easy going forum, certainly in comparison to a bunch of others.

as far as ur other point goes, i think its just a sign of the natural evolution of the game. forums are at their most lively when the global knowledge is clustered and limited, so everyone can rationally contribute what they know since theyll get everyone elses knowledge in turn. whats happened here is that global knowledge has become far less tightly clustered (as ppl start to excel at the game) and much less limited (as more and more info is publicly available). that, in turn, places a high premium on the value of new knowledge, which is the death knell for strategy forums since ppl are rational and greedy and the second it becomes better for them to hoard rather than share info, thats precisely what theyll do. and its totally understandable - when new, unique knowledge takes longer and costs more to acquire, it has a far greater value to its owner, who is understandably less inclined to share it with anyone, let alone their direct competitors.

edit, it also got a little tiresome when so many threads might as well have been titled "do my homework for me".

Agree with validand.

And could def put threads that are very basic into SSPLO, even if the stakes are high enough to be HSPLO threads.