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Originally Posted by Javanewt
So, if you 4bet, are you prepared to gii against the other big stack? We are talking 600bb (with straddle).
Plus, we are OOP, which really stinks in this spot. There are actually very few flops that we love against V3's 4bet flatting range.
If there is a good chance V3 will fold to the 4bet (lol, this is PLO), have at it, but I'm flatting here.
I tend to think that a pot-sized raise is better than a call because we get abused by the short-stack, I can give several scenarios without mentioning flop texture (the shorty is all in so the pot is 1.3k)
A. hero checks, v3 shoves, v4 flats
B. Hero checks, v3 shoves, v4 jams
C. Hero checks, v3 checks and v4 makes a smallish cbet (say 450 that would allow v4 to reopen the action if v3 raises)
I also think the information in the op that v3 might fold a decent amount of his range and that v4 is not the most experienced plo player make raising comparatively more attractive than it would be vs some opponents
I should note, that situations like this do open the door to some unusual raise sizes that can reduce some of these concerns - if hero raises to $450-600 v3 and v4 will have a harder time exploiting hero based on the stack imbalances.. the main problem with these atypical raise sizes is villains will probably be able to infer too much about your range unless you play a very aggro style or are a world-crusher
Both v3 and v4 may raise so hero should be very hesitant to pass up lines that may let him commit with decent aa this deep
Edit: these smaller raises also open the door to implicit collusion between you and v3 if he does have a rundown type hand as jamming will often be more +ev than flatting
Last edited by monikrazy; 11-14-2017 at 11:35 AM.