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Originally Posted by Z06Fanatic1
Does he pot the turn here with bare spades? Seems like an awkward stack size for him to be potting the turn with a flush draw, and sucks for him when you c/jam. If he is potting here with bare spades just throw it into a sim on where your equity lies with AQ of course. I believe if he's potting here with all his spades you should GII with a great equity advantage, and if he only pots his AQ than calling is correct.
I was fairly unfamiliar with this player, other than seeing him take down a lot of pots to folds and sometimes chasing big bets and hitting, or aggressively betting his draws. I didn't have as much a history. Obviously knowing what I know now, I'd be more likely to shove the turn.
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Originally Posted by ladybruin
Excellent hand with a lot going on for discussion. There is so much going on that I need to think about postflop awhile longer. I'll stick to preflop for now.
I don't think KKc8c2c is strong enough to raise here preflop. If there was no straddle, then EP or MP I'm folding. With no straddle, in CO or BU I'm open raising. And with no straddle I'm open limping SB. Now on to the actually hand with you in straddle, since BU limps and is pretty much making it clear he is playing the hand even if there is a raise preflop, there is no reason to raise this weak of KK since you are not likely winning the hand uncontested preflop with them both folding. You are going to the flop out of position to a wild player.
My dislike of KK82 is so that I think I would have to be double suited to preflop raise in your spot.
Preflop has a domino cascading effect on post flop. Since you did preflop raise things are extremely interesting since you now have the initiative against a wild player with position on you. I need to think more about how to proceed as played.
The only basic thing I'll say about postflop right now is that in general I give people credit for having the Broadway when it hits. Even more so when the ten is on the board.
Yes, this is a very junky king hand. However, we were playing 5 handed, there was no raise, and wanted to build enough of a pot against the loose player, given we were fairly deep in case I hit something. I did want to raise the top maybe 25% of my range, which this probably falls just outside of my range here. There is another meta angle here which is setting up steals where there's 5 limpers to my straddle and I can pot it and it's a very large raise for the players to call, and I can take it down fairly successfully. But yes, checking is probably best pre.
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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
I want to CRAI here on this board texture unblocking the main draws. I won't know here I stand on too many turns and I want to realize my equity. Let's hope action player bets for us (seems likely V will). I also overlimp this exact and similar KKxx, the side cards are too disconnected to raise for value, you are single-suited (and triple-suited at that).
Wasn't deep enough to CRAI on the fop. But it does set up a single pot sized bet on the turn if I pull it off. My concern with the CRAI is I get him to pot once, and then fold, a lot of the time. WIth this exact player, I felt like I had a reasonable chance to bet out, get raised, and then pot all in, and he might feel committed to fold.
I do raise preflop in this spot sometimes to be a bit deceptive, as a lot of times a raise preflop in this game is interpreted as AAxx. So I can take down a decent number of pots if an ace comes just by betting out, which is the disaster flop for KKxx (barring a flush/flush draw). I also tend to do this because a lot of players are very uncomfortable in big pots and I can move them off hands and take down bigger pots, and I'd rather be doing this with hands that can back into strong hands if I'm caught.
But table lineup at this point is this:
2 seat- competent but tight ABC player
3 seat - competent, but a bit looser, who also thinks I'm a bad/aggro player who bluffs too much
4 seat - me
7 seat - wild player
9 seat - bad PLO player who overvalues poor hands and happily gets money in behind
Given I'm UTG when the bad players have position on me, I am more inclined to straddle, raise, so that the *good* players get out of the way, since they don't want to play out of position with me.