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Comment on my horrible play please Comment on my horrible play please

04-12-2010 , 09:30 AM
Thanks in advance for feedback.

I think I played this hand awful and just got stubborn at the end. What betsizing should I be using on the river to induce a raise?

$10.00/20.00 Pot limit Omaha Cash Games, 6 Players
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Board:
mikeyG16 (SB): $3,307
parasita29 (BB): $4,880
IAmSoSo (UTG): $2,914
HERO (UTG+1): $3,916
SingaporeFish (CO): $2,113
Cole South (Button): $4,783

Dealt to HERO 5 5 Q Q

Pre-flop:
(1 folds), HERO raises to $60, SingaporeFish calls $60, Cole South raises to $288, (2 folds), HERO calls $228, (1 folds)

Flop: ($666) 5 T J (2 Players)
HERO checks, Cole South checks

Turn: ($666) 3 (2 Players)
HERO bets $640, Cole South calls $640

River: ($1,946) 4 (2 Players)
HERO bets $1,860, Cole South raises to $3,852, HERO calls $1,125,

Villian is 96/20 over 50 hands with .6 af and 0 cb%. Forget about trying to give him a preflop range for cold-calling 3bets. What's the best option and what's the plan for rivers?

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Board:
BB: $811
UTG: $2,109
UTG+1: $601.50
CO: $1,080.50
Button: $2,690.50
SB: $2,846.50

Dealt to Button 8 A Q A

Pre-flop:
UTG raises to $30, (1 folds), CO calls $30, Button raises to $144, SB calls $139, (1 folds), UTG calls $114, CO calls $114

Flop: ($586) 4 9 2 (4 Players)
SB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Button bets $450, SB calls $450, (2 folds)

Turn: ($1,486) 6 (2 Players)
SB bets $760,

Villian is a tricky fish 45/19 with af of 3. He's peeling pretty lite, with most marginal flush draws or any open ender I'd imagine. Feels std but double checking.
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Board:
UTG: $980
UTG+1: $1,665.50
MP1: $1,960
MP2: $654
CO: $2,000
Button: $15,714.45
SB: $1,061
BB: $570
MP4: $1,129.50

Dealt to MP4 Q J K 9

Pre-flop:
MP4 raises to $60, (5 folds), Button calls $60, (2 folds)

Flop: ($150) 9 7 4 (2 Players)
MP4 checks, Button bets $40, MP4 raises to $267, Button calls $227

Turn: ($684) 6 (2 Players)
MP4 bets $681,

This is a cap hand. My image is ok, but not great. Obviously an ace is a sexier bluff card, but how often are ya'll raising here against a tag reg? Do you guys feel like players are calling raises here enough to make it profitable in general? I only take shots at 25/50, not my regular stakes so that's why I'm asking.
$25.00/50.00 Pot limit Omaha Cash Games, 6 Players
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Board:
CO: $5,338
Button: $10,102.50
SB: $5,913.75
BB: $1,252
UTG: $2,075
UTG+1: $17,182.50

Dealt to Button Q K 5 2

Pre-flop:
UTG raises to $150, (1 folds), CO calls $150, Button calls $150, (2 folds)

Flop: ($525) A 2 4 (3 Players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Button bets $350, UTG calls $350, (1 folds)

Turn: ($1,225) 5 (2 Players)
UTG checks, Button checks

River: ($1,225) 4 (2 Players)
UTG bets $855,

We're 50bbs here. I think villians a reg but don't really recognize him. 29/13 over 200 hands with a 13% cr %. Can I get this in?

$10.00/20.00 Pot limit Omaha Cash Games, 5 Players
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Board:
SB: $1,000
BB: $2,589
UTG: $1,000
CO: $1,303
Button: $1,022

Dealt to Button A J T 7

Pre-flop:
(2 folds), Button raises to $60, (1 folds), BB calls $40

Flop: ($130) 3 2 J (2 Players)
BB checks, Button bets $100, BB raises to $420,
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04-12-2010 , 12:27 PM
1) not sure if cts will bite with air if you bet very small to induce, cause he knows it's hard for him to rep much on riv. I think i bet ~1500 and fold to shove.
2) fold vs 0.6af
3) fold
4) fold
5) i think i normally shove this 50bb BUT guess what (pending a read ofc):

board: jd2c3s
Hand Equity Wins Ties
ahjhth7d 35.15% 207,108 7,580
30%&(j3**, jj**, 456*, jnnn, qq**) 64.85% 385,312 7,580

vs a normal range you need much more. now 13% cr is pretty high, so it's close
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04-12-2010 , 12:51 PM
In hand 1 I think you should C/R flop (assuming you were gonna do that), but with these stacks and especially OOP against a very solid player like cole, I think C/Ring turn > potting turn.

Hand 2 I think is a pretty clear fold. What hands that we beat is he C/Cing flop with, then 1/2potting this turn? If you're behind, your equity is atrocious. I remember a similar hand being posted and CTS opening my eyes as to how absolutely awful we get our money in here against anything that has us beat on the turn:

board: 4d9d2c6h
Hand Equity Wins Ties
AhAcQc8c 20.00% 8 0
TcTd6c2h 80.00% 32 0

Hand 3 I guess C/Ring here for balance is fine, especially if you expect him to bet very liberally once you check. The turn sucks balls, I guess with 1PSB left shoving can't be much of a mistake but I could be convinced otherwise.

Hand 4 I don't think calling pre is very profitable, especially in cap where there's so little room for postflop play and outmanoeuvering your opponents. I guess if players are really bad/passive/weaktight your position could be valuable enough to make it +EV, but I really doubt it.

About river play: I'm assuming the cap is 2k? If he's a good/thinking player I guess you could shove. Your 'not great' image doesn't help though.

Hand 5 He's gotta be way out of line for you to get this in profitable, like C/Ring worse Jxxx and 7643 type hands. I don't think many 29/13s do this kind of stuff, so fold.
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04-12-2010 , 01:00 PM
1) bet less on riv...now fold unfortunately.
2) call. fold to river bets completing draws, maybe other cards, depending on bet sizing/spidey sense.
3) bet/call flop. actually, i prolly b/3b. if he flats that's just a crummy turn card. not sure if b/f or c/f is better honestly. think i'd lean towards b/f since we only get raised by the nut str8.
4) fold pre. not sure i understand yr question about opponents calling raises/profitability?
5) i feel like i honestly fold here the first time vs a 29/13 but that could be too nitty. depends on how aggro they are post. shipping the first time is fine too. + you get some very valuable info on what he's getting in on this board.

overall, i think yr 5 hand post is worse than yr play.
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04-12-2010 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jamiezig
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overall, i think yr 5 hand post is worse than yr play.
lol sorry i went a bit overboard.
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04-12-2010 , 03:11 PM
hand 1: Calling river raise hmm...not sure if you are ever good there. I like b/f smaller amount on the river, or maybe c/and decide.

hand 2: I'd fold turn, and is c-betting flop standard there? I assume you are bet folding, but I think I'd check 4-way, your equity can't be good with that flop.

hand 3: Seems fine to jam it.

hand 4: Preflop seems bad, and I'd generally give up on the hand.

hand 5: I don't think you're ever in great shape here. I'd say if you're not sure how to react to his c/r, then check back flop?
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04-12-2010 , 03:17 PM
In number 4, you know he'll only have to call $650 right? Shoving is terrible

2 I fold

1 I like leading flop, and checking the turn if I checked the flop, and on the river I'm unsure

3 looks ok

hand 5 I think you should fold
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04-12-2010 , 03:50 PM
i think some of these are just gross folds. i wouldnt beat yourself up too much over these hands
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04-13-2010 , 02:14 AM
I think you should standardly check river in hand 1. Clearly if you think you can't b-f.

Maybe it's just me but I think people in this forum are a little too greedy for value in spots where a backdoor draw has come in.

Besides the fact that it's entirely possible he hit it, there's the fact that it sure looks like you hit it yourself and therefore it's hard to get paid. It's also a great bluff spot for him when you check, and he can easily have like A98dd or something.
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04-13-2010 , 05:31 AM
Hand 1
I call as played, since the odds are so good and I guess we see some blocker bluff once in a while. I really dont like the big river bet though, unless you have reason to believe he expects you to bluff a lot more than average. Against someone passive I probably bet/fold smaller, otherwise I think I check-call a lot.

Hand 2 I think I hate life and fold - its kind close but I cant really come up with a line thats more profitable. Raising sucks with these stacks, and there are not many cards to hope for if we float.

Hand 3 I fold almost always, but I dont mind a shove once in a while if your image is right for it.

Hand 4
You are repping a pretty narrow range by raising river, and he is getting great odds, I definately wouldnt expect a shove to work often enough.

Hand 5
I would jam in this spot without being thrilled about it.

I also like it better when hands are posted individually.
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