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10-02-2018 , 10:41 PM
Are there HUD stats which track when a player folds to a bet on a riveted str8 or paired board?

I lost two decent pots tonight.


PLO25 WPN 6max

No 1: SB who called hero UTG raise, CC two streets (1/2 and full pot) and bet half pot on river when str8 came in.

Board: 4c5xJcKx7x

Hero 9dTdKsKc


Hand No2: Villain (UTG) called my 3B (UTG+1) and c/c pot size bet on flop, turn checked through, then he bet 1/2 pot on river.

Board:AQ494

Hero:AJJTds

I always feel like I'm flipping a coin on the river in these spots, over folding, or not betting because I'm afraid of building a big pot which will result in a fold because of a bad river card .
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10-02-2018 , 10:52 PM
First hand Im snap calling. If he called twice with naked 678 there then he's really bad and good for him.

Second hand I don't understand the point of betting the flop. What worse hand calls you here, AT? Best advice is don't cbet if you don't know what to do on future streets when called. What are your suits and the board suits?

EDIT:Not saying a cbet is bad just want to know your purpose

Last edited by Do0rDoNot; 10-02-2018 at 11:03 PM.
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10-03-2018 , 07:16 AM
First hand he could've had str8 draw w/FD. After all what hands are c/c and the value betting river? I feel betting true was a mistake because it just ended up bloating the pot. Is there a HUD stat which would allow V to profitably bluff river there?

Second hand I bet flop to get a fold. So either V was bluffing, but I'm leaning towards QQxx or 4xxx
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10-03-2018 , 07:32 AM
i use HM and there are no stats i am aware of that take into consideration board composition

Notecaddy does that but there are restrictions in its use
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10-03-2018 , 09:22 AM
I wouldn't really worry about getting exploited at the 25s, because of some stat you think someone may or may not have.

There are some really good players that recognize spots to bluff, based on your betting patterns, and there are players that just can't drop draws and love to chase. I would say the second player is more prevalent at these limits, so don't feel bad about folding when bad river cards come and someone bets into you.

Eventually you need to call one of these half pot bets, and get information on your opponent. The first hand is a candidate to do so, the second not so much.
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10-03-2018 , 11:07 AM
Emotionally it can feel like you should win more than 50% of the time to call correctly.

It is also very depressing to play perfectly and call whenever you will win 26% of the time, but that's what those b%&tards that crush PLO do.

Last edited by Czech Rays; 10-03-2018 at 11:29 AM.
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10-03-2018 , 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ72
First hand he could've had str8 draw w/FD. After all what hands are c/c and the value betting river? I feel betting true was a mistake because it just ended up bloating the pot. Is there a HUD stat which would allow V to profitably bluff river there?
Dont know of one

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oSecond hand I bet flop to get a fold. So either V was bluffing, but I'm leaning towards QQxx or 4xxx
I think the hand is played fine. You take your free card which is good and fold river unimproved. This isnt exploitable and if you're really worried about it you can include some monsters in your turn check back range
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