I know this question has been asked a million times and i have read so many threads about BRM for Hu PLO but every thread has different answers for example some say 100 BI for Hu others say 200 and some even say 250 BI.

I thought i start this thread here in High Stakes PLO where the guys that actually do it day in day out and have had huge downswings might be happy to answer and give some advice.

Many say 100 BI is enough as long as you move down others prefer to be over-rolled play less stress free and not move down every time they have a downswing.

I mean its not uncommon to lose 10 BI in heads up in a single session and with a bit of stubbornness and Tilt which even with the untiltable can happen sometimes 20 BI can be dropped in a single session.

Than you get some saying 250 BI is a overkill move up.

Have read regulars here talk about 50 BI downswings others here also have mentioned 100+ BI downswings.

I mean it only takes one time to not move down and with variance against pressure on BR all combined and busto.

So my question to the experienced regulars who post here what BRM do you use and recommend for someone who is thinking of going full time and who play Hu only and for someone who is not going to bumhunt but play more regs?

I have used 70-100 BI but i have never had huge downswings and am not experienced enough with big downswings to know hence why i thought i ask.

Thanks in Advance!

no one?

Calculating variance and financial management aren't really HSPLO topics IMO. Post at SSPLO or in a math forum to figure out what the risks are at different bankroll sizes and then decide what risk you want to take.

i don´t think most posters here are properly rolled, go to SSPLO

Win rates vary so hugely for HU PLO, and win rates dictate bankroll size.

I think 100bi and moving up or down at certain levels makes sense. A lot of people tend to be in the 30bi range

Risk of ruin calculator come up with 50 BI after putting in my SD and Win-rate, and 50 BI for Hu PLO is way to low.

I think you made a mistake with your stdev input, 80 is way to low for plo hu.

It's too low even for HU NLHE isn't it?

http://www.reviewpokerrooms.com/poke...uirements.html

With 10bb winrate and 180 std, 1% risk of ruin requires 7460.38bb.

So 100 buy ins sounds about right if you are a heavy game selector.

A fun exercise of someone who maybe actually does play all comers grinding out 3bb/100...

3bb with 180 std, 1% risk of ruin's required bankroll: 24,867.92

Only bought and started using Hm2 the 80 is cuz not enough hands my bad.

grizy so for PLO 400 its 24,867.92 x $4 = 100k BR So 250 BI? wow

Not practically speaking. But yeah, in today's low winrate high variance environment, the bankroll requirements are much larger than some would like to admit.

Has a lot to do with your edge and how you handle those swings. I mean I probably play better HU when having a losing day because losing 10k more or less doesn't matter. But being faced with such crazy swings every day I wake up would give me a heart attack. Also depends on how old you are and for how long you have been doing this job.

I would say for 6m you need roughly 150 buyins and probably 200+ for 25/50+ if you play deep and with all the regs. For HU and same tough opponents anything below 500 seems questionable to me. I guess yeah, if you get a reg who is on tilt of his life to play HU less is okay I guess cos he spews so much away and edge becomes big.

insyder19 500 BI now i am being leveled right?

No.

buncha pussies itt.

20 BIs. every time you lose 2, move down.

depending on the fish 20bi shots are cool and with how lobbies are, i'm sure it's not rare to see people sit with those intentions

if you're playing only hu anyway, you lose lots of value not sitting up to the limits you're ok losing

what else are you sitting around all day for

Thats true. My thinking is if you are playing regs every day HU, such as sauce vs isildur. Most of the highroller got there by taking aggressive shots with very little bankroll management though.

Doorbread, btw, what was or is your name on the merge network? Pretty sure we played a bit vs each other

I used to think 200 Bi was so over-rolled and ridiculous.

But after reading this thread and seeing Bttech86 lose 1.7mil 43 BI in one session not so ridiculous now.

Because cap plo with two hyper aggressive regulars 3x opening is relevant to the rest of the poker worlds brm needs

my normal std deviation in hu plo is ~260 i think, and vs isildur it's over 400 lol

You mean this guy?



Pretty sure he was too busy with other things.

maybe others care to post what there std deviaation is in hu?