Villain is well-spoken well dressed American gent. I’m $900 deep and he easily covers with over $3k. He appears to be flustered and on tilt because some boorish Yank bluffed him, showed the bluff after he folded, and for some reason the Yank started shouting out “Little mermaid! Little mermaid!” and then singing the “Under the Sea” song and villain in this hand cheeks turned crimson red.

That happened roughly ten hands ago, and he cold 4-bet 69TJ doublesuited a few hands ago, but won a big 3-way All-in pot with it flopping a big combo draw and getting there so he might be off tilt.

He open raises in EP, I call with QQ66ss, one of the blinds comes along.

Flop 58J two to a suit with my FD. He bets close to pot, I call, blind folds.

Turn off suit 2, he bets around 2/3 pot, I call.

River is a 4 completing the rainbow and he pauses motionless for roughly 30 seconds and announces “Pot”

What’s my play? I can see merit in all three options but think folding is probably the worst play.

I'm interested to know why you think folding is your worst option, or rather why calling is better?

Imo this is close to one of your worst hands to ever consider hero calling with.

Because I don’t think he tanks and pots like that with anything other than the nuts and I have dem blockahs. Folding could still be a better option though, but I think raise>>>>call>fold is the correct order in ranking of merit, but unfortunately I called and he had 77KK and old Johan looked a bit foolish, even though I made the right read.

Agree that river is a fold, and flop is also a fold imo

Not sure how much fold equity you would have from a raise.. hard to follow how much more you have left behind.

What was your thinking behind the calls? This is not NLH.

I must say those decisions are going to lose a lot of money.

Even though I would have only been shoving I think 300ish more I still think I might have some fold equity against described opponent even if he had 36/A3 but the reason I called is I perceived it as nuts or nothing and wanted to save a bit in case my read was wrong.

I disagree that flop is a fold.

Yes it’s not NLH, but I have the third-nut 1-pair and in NLH you might consider calling in this spot, with a similar read, with aa weak as Ace-high

Sorry I misssed the flushdraw on the flop! Now you can understand my confusion.

I think it's a defendable but still probably losing line. In this spot, just be aware that about 60% of random hands beat yours right now, and I would rather call this down vs a good player than a tilty player, because a tilty player will keep firing with a lot more of his random two pairs.

Put amounts in your hand history - his pot bet is most of your stack, no?

I don’t quite remember I think the pot bet was roughly $400 and I had around 700.

Please pm me when you play.

I dont play qq66ss. Ever.

That's your first mistake.

Maybe I’ve been playing PLO all wrong but I would never ever even remotely consider not playing QQ66ss on the button to a single raise

Typically if you have JJ/QQ/KK on the button you are going to be able to call an opening raise no matter your other 2 cards, but double-pocket hands end up being weak because you either block yourself on draws, you have no redraws, or your other two cards are worthless.

Doesn't mean I would never play it on the button but I definitely need to have my post-flop strategy very dialed in against aggressive opponents because I know they will be firing at every conceivable flop and unless I make top set I'm forced to call down super-thin or bluff (not my preferred options in PLO).

With QQ66 (even suited) you really need a super-clean flop to know your ahead and you will not have any re-draws behind. On the board you hit (J85) it's so draw-heavy that it's impossible to know what's a good card for you (Q could get you stacked against 910, there are 24 outs that make a straight, even if you hit your flush you are positioning yourself to get stacked). Also since he ended up having KK77 he could easily have the and you are drawing to like 2 outs on the flop and still calling multiple bullets!

In this spot you are basically playing on "instinct" and not giving yourself the best possible chance to win against this type of opponent. On the flop I can see the argument to peel one off because he's so aggressive but on the turn I would certainly shut-down, drawing way too thin with no read on where you are at.

Since you didn't raise the flop opponent has no reason to put you on a set and you didn't re-raise preflop so you don't have AA; with that range he is ahead with KK and can keep betting if low cards come. That board is SUPER draw-heavy so the 2 on the turn is actually a dream-card for him since you didn't raise the flop (if he was good then, and you didn't raise, he's still good now).

I think against a player like this I'd just fold the flop....sucks, but sometimes you have to do it!

i'd 3 bet this hand all day on the button with your stack size
lmao@ folding it on the button

I cant believe anyone would fold this online. Live, no ****ing way.

Imo just single suited a call is preferable

when u play hands like qq66 u can only expect to hit a set or fold or a bad flush , either way , the way u play I think is fold on the turn after the 2nd barrel

Well yeah, but a set, especially a set of queens, is a very powerful hand even in PLO and a bare pair of Qs is often good at SD in two and even 3-way pots. Facing a cold call of a 3b in the blinds or maybe MP it’s likely a fold, but otherwise imo this hand should always be played to a single raise and 3b and folding to a single raise otb is ludicrous.

Turn is clear call imo IP with overpair, decent FD, plus potential str8 blockers on a few cards.

Using the button to bluff is never an option ever, whenever you have qq66.

Qq77 maybe you could