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Old 12-30-2010, 08:41 AM   #26
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Re: 500th post: Mental Game/Poker Mindset Manifesto (way, way, way tl;dr)

lolz, the first 20 people posting in ylur bbv thread didnt even read one word. Reminds me of some people i know who just cant for the life of them figure out why they havent made alot of money with online poker yet lol. Then i send them some 2 page article, and i get 'omg do i have to read all that???'
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:44 AM   #27
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Re: 500th post: Mental Game/Poker Mindset Manifesto (way, way, way tl;dr)

My thoughts exactly, chipchip.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:58 AM   #28
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I spotted this in BBV earlier today. Really eye-opening to see the difference in reactions between your standard BBV moron and successful people in the PLO forum.

Thanks for sharing, Jared.
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Delete the entire sub-forum imo. It depresses me that such a community exists
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Old 12-30-2010, 12:27 PM   #29
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Delete the entire sub-forum imo. It depresses me that such a community exists
+1. Have you checked out bbv4life or oot yet?

OP - Terrific post, just excellent. Anyone who hasn't spent the 15 mins or so reading through should do so.

Many thanks
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Old 12-30-2010, 12:47 PM   #30
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lolz, the first 20 people posting in ylur bbv thread didnt even read one word. Reminds me of some people i know who just cant for the life of them figure out why they havent made alot of money with online poker yet lol. Then i send them some 2 page article, and i get 'omg do i have to read all that???'
Cliff notes please???????

Great post OP. We need more of this altruistic donation of thoughts and knowledge to the poker community and less $2k ebooks.
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Old 12-30-2010, 02:09 PM   #31
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Re: 500th post: Mental Game/Poker Mindset Manifesto (way, way, way tl;dr)

thank you for this, will read properly later....
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Old 12-30-2010, 02:25 PM   #32
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Sincere Thanks for posting this. Its so nice when someone takes the time to write a long well thought out helpful post.
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Old 12-30-2010, 03:37 PM   #33
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Thanks for all the kind words guys.

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I spotted this in BBV earlier today. Really eye-opening to see the difference in reactions between your standard BBV moron and successful people in the PLO forum.

Thanks for sharing, Jared.
Thanks, but just to clarify my name is not Jared. Jared Tendler is a mental game coach that I use and LearnedFromTV was recommending him, not me. You should really know this too, since we had a lengthy discussion on skype together.

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nice post.

BBVtard is a good way of describing the level of responses in BBV

and what happened half way through ur graph that suddenly made ur redline go up 45 degrees?
Started 3-betting more and pulling the trigger much more frequently on big bluffs and hero calls. I think these changes made me win more while I was playing my A-game, but the increased variance of this style caused me to tilt more frequently and harder so I think I overcompensated in terms of adding aggression and pushing small edges.

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Read all of it, people asking for cliffs dont deserve it anyway. This isn't the type of stuff you can put into cliffs.

Not that it's a big deal if you can edit the OP one of the examples was backwards...
Yes, that's a typo, but it's too late to go back and edit it now.
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Old 12-30-2010, 03:49 PM   #34
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"I canít count the number of times during my career Iíve sat at my desk and alternated between staring at my drastically depleted cashier balance and the ceiling, in utter disbelief and despair, feeling like I was trapped in a nightmare."

Made me laugh, been there so many times!

I have also had a lot of trouble with poker affecting other parts of my life and its something I am definitely getting better at but also still have a way to go, also loved the advice on doing things now rather than putting them off to a future date as its so easy to slip into a cycle of pushing that future date further and further back.

Nice post for sure, if people can't be bothered taking the time to read it then that's fine by me, some really useful things in there and we don't need everyone reading it
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Old 12-30-2010, 05:01 PM   #35
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Thanks, but just to clarify my name is not Jared. Jared Tendler is a mental game coach that I use and LearnedFromTV was recommending him, not me. You should really know this too, since we had a lengthy discussion on skype together.
Oh man I suck Sorry Matt.

(Please don't go "I aint no Matt either" now)
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Old 12-30-2010, 10:19 PM   #36
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Excellent post, people underestimate the mindset part of the game/life so much, it is not just a small part in a professional poker players repertoire, its crucial.
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Old 12-30-2010, 11:14 PM   #37
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Re: 500th post: Mental Game/Poker Mindset Manifesto (way, way, way tl;dr)

great, great, great post. HOF imo.

now i wanna hear some blow stories or some other ****ed up drug related **** ! Mix in some hooker stories as well and this thread would be even better.

whats the most money you bet on a single sporting event?
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Old 12-31-2010, 02:58 AM   #38
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probably the single best post I've read on 2+2. It's pretty simple, but that's the beauty of it. It's about poker, but it's also about life. I can't thank you enough for sharing this.
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Old 12-31-2010, 06:50 AM   #39
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This def. one of the 10 best threads/posts i read on 2+2.
Will def. read it again
Thx a lot
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Old 12-31-2010, 05:27 PM   #40
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will read when I feel really strong and have lots of time
me too
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Old 01-01-2011, 05:18 AM   #41
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Old 01-02-2011, 10:23 AM   #42
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good read, thanks!
just curious, why is this in High Stakes Forum, while you play SS yourself?
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Old 01-02-2011, 10:36 AM   #43
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Great post. Thanks a lot and will read again.
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Old 01-02-2011, 01:04 PM   #44
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good read, thanks!
just curious, why is this in High Stakes Forum, while you play SS yourself?
why does this matter at all ?

crashwhips

inspiring stories ! thanks for sharing
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:05 PM   #45
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why does this matter at all ?
Well, at first glance I got the impression I receive advice by a HS player.
And I'd much rather emulate a 25/50 winner then someone that plays below my limits. No big deal though, still good read...
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Old 01-02-2011, 11:27 PM   #46
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Well, at first glance I got the impression I receive advice by a HS player.
And I'd much rather emulate a 25/50 winner then someone that plays below my limits. No big deal though, still good read...
With all the respect, but been small minded and thinking inside the box like that cant bring you much good in life.
Sometimes playing small stakes professionally for such a long time demands a lot more of mental control and focus, because its a lot harder to be motivated to do the every day grind.
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Old 01-03-2011, 03:46 AM   #47
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well ya should definitley be able to gain some clientele after this post.
not sure if you are still interested in doing mental coaching though.
one of the best posts ever.
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Old 01-03-2011, 09:53 AM   #48
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well ya should definitley be able to gain some clientele after this post.
not sure if you are still interested in doing mental coaching though.
one of the best posts ever.
Thanks, I gave up on trying to do mindset coaching tho
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Old 01-05-2011, 04:16 AM   #49
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Great post, ty.
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Old 01-29-2011, 09:18 PM   #50
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Thanks for this. Great read!
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