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5/5 PLO top2 on flop. Turnplay 5/5 PLO top2 on flop. Turnplay

10-09-2017 , 07:09 AM
5-5€ live PLO 10max fullring.
Middleposition with AQTxss.I have called a single raise in front of me. Multiway-pot with 7 or 8 players. Pot is around 150-160€.
Flop AQ8 rainbow.
Its checked to me.I bet 125€. A weak guy with shortstack on BTN is moved all in for 80€, BB called and the original preflopraiser called also.
Turn J.
BB checked (around 200€ stack), orginal preflopraiser checked (he has covered me)
Hero (800€ stack)?

Last edited by MartinK1979; 10-09-2017 at 07:14 AM.
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10-09-2017 , 07:55 AM
Check back.
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10-09-2017 , 06:16 PM
Can we find a reason for a bet here?
Assuming for value, if no one has a str8 right now and still calling with some random 2 pair stuff or str8 draws.
With our linie in this spot is still possible that we hit the str8 on the turn.
My table image is tight and in this spot I am ususally betting only the nuts on the turn..
Another question: If we bet on turn is BB going to fold one possible better hand like 88xx for example? I was thinking about this hand, during the play.
The is no more propably better holdings, that we could get to fold here anyway...So is checking the only option?

Last edited by MartinK1979; 10-09-2017 at 06:22 PM.
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10-09-2017 , 08:31 PM
you're crushed somewhere on the turn after that action for sure. check and pray for ace, cuz a queen aint comin the way it looks
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10-10-2017 , 12:57 PM
Easy check back. You may have the best hand... but you do not get called by worse. And you will get reraised by straights a lot... very easy for villain to have had kj10x on the flop. Or AAxx or QQxx, or 88xx.

You want to get to cheap showdown at this point.
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10-11-2017 , 07:41 AM
How the hand was play out:
Turn: I checked back.
River: 7
BB checked, another guy checked, I checked back and lost to BBs 8823, the another guy had AKJx.
Toughts on riverplay: If someone has a str8 here, he would bet for value.
I was not sure, if I should bet the river and turn my hand into a bluff and if this make sense in this spot and how it looks like?
With my Top2 I had still some kind of showdown value, but was not sure if I really going to win here..
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10-18-2017 , 09:00 PM
i think your play was fine.
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10-18-2017 , 11:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MartinK1979
Toughts on riverplay: If someone has a str8 here, he would bet for value.
I was not sure, if I should bet the river and turn my hand into a bluff and if this make sense in this spot and how it looks like?
A player might check T9 twice. Your turn check suggests you do not have a straight, so you might get looked up by sets and two pair combinations. It's a question of how many two pair hands call you. Unfortunately, you don't have missed flush draws in your range.

If your opponents tend to lead the turn when they make a straight, then it makes sense to bet if you can get your opponents to fold 88 or AQ. They often will if you have the sort of tight image where they think you are likely to have a set that you will check behind with on the turn. I have the sort of image where AAxx is definitely in my range, given the preflop action, so I can get certain players to fold hands like AQJx or 88xx with a turn bet.
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10-20-2017 , 02:53 AM
Flop is probably a check given it's 7-8 handed. Do you have the bdnfd?

Turn is a clear check. The side-pot is small, and you have decent equity but getting check raised would be a disaster. Trying to get better hands to fold here is unlikely and lighting money on fire. I would not bet here without K10 and a redraw.
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10-20-2017 , 06:00 PM
if you bet turn you're bluffing... I would not bluff in this spot ever
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10-22-2017 , 06:58 PM
In 3way pot when 1player is all in(btn here) there s no point in bluffing third player. He also cannot bluff as he might lose to third players who is all in already. I think your play was fine. Only other option was to bet 40 so you can repot if short stack jams for 80.
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10-23-2017 , 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by smoothcriminal99
if you bet turn you're bluffing... I would not bluff in this spot ever
I was considering to bluff for one moment, because I was put someone on a set here and nobody on a str8...and I was right. They all show weakness with checking and they don't really expect me, that I would bluff here, if I bet strong. I should keep going with my first instincts.
With checking behing I played the hand GTO-correct.But sometimes is better (for me) to feel the situation and make a feel decision rather than a rational one..
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11-10-2017 , 07:40 PM
I don't think it's a great spot for a bluff because people have a hard time folding sets before the river so you're committed to two barrels. And it still might not work and you could still be against a straight. I think you played it perfectly.
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11-10-2017 , 10:03 PM
Turn is an excellent spot for turning our hand into a bluff if villain has at least 1 full psb imo, its just not clear whether villain is a good candidate
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11-27-2017 , 11:18 PM
is this not a fold preflop in middle position 10 handed game aqtx suited to ace facing a raise?
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11-27-2017 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by halperin
is this not a fold preflop in middle position 10 handed game aqtx suited to ace facing a raise?
It is arguably a fold if the preflop raiser only raises with AAxx. It is a very reasonable call if the likely outcome is 5+ players seeing the flop and no 3bet behind you.
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12-06-2017 , 06:48 AM
Check it back too many ppl in this hand to think u have the nuts
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12-06-2017 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
Turn is an excellent spot for turning our hand into a bluff if villain has at least 1 full psb imo, its just not clear whether villain is a good candidate
Totally disagree.With 1psb people are calling with sets here.

I cannot see good reason for turning our hand into bluff when we still need to

beat player who is all in,and he can have sets and straight.

Basically we bluff to win 45e side pot.Not good idea against 2 players.
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12-08-2017 , 06:04 PM
I thought for a second or two and decided preflop is probably fine with how live PLO plays. Always fun to play nut suits because someone out there may just hand you a stack if you make a flush.

Betting turn would be suicide. Yes we like having the ten in our hand, but we're going to have better barrel candidates. We still beat hands like AJTx or AK8x
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