This game was the biggest game running in the room. I sat down with 2500 bucks and was covered by most of the table. My third hand I got into an interesting pot that I think I could've played better. We are 9 handed.

Button straddles, sb calls, bb calls, call, call, call, I pot to 70 with AAJT with one suited ace, button calls, sb calls, bb calls, utg+1 calls, utg+2 calls and mp calls. 6 to the flop...

Flop comes 983 rainbow with one of my suit.

Sb checks, bb checks, utg+1 shoves for 200, utg+2 folds, mp calls, I call, sb shoves for 600, mp calls, I call. The main pot is 1150, a side pot has 1200 in it with two players all in. Mp and I can still bet on the side. He has me covered so were 1730 effective.

Turn comes another 8 completing the rainbow.

(hated this card obviously. didn't feel i could bet, but I don't think he would check an 8 if he had one in hindsight. what do you guys think about his line in relation to this turn card?)

Mp checks, I check.

River comes another 8.

(mp tanked for roughly 2 minutes before checking. In hindsight I have to be betting this river card. If he is checking quads then good for him. At the time I felt like I couldn't really get called by much worse, then I thought maybe KK - TT might call a bet. What do you guys think we can get value out of on this river? Is this fine to check back given we would be betting into a dry side pot?)

Mp checks, I check.

ship flop

river you have to bet

bet dat river please (700)
I assume after sb shoves and mp calls you gotta shove yourself if you feel strong enough to call.
mp only flatted all the way. just get it in.

No way MP has 99 after that flop action, you only lose to quads.

Plenty of whiffs in your range, you'll get called by most overpairs. Maybe even 33 if he's a fish.

wat?
be happy and bet....

Shove flop when it gets back to you after sb shoves, bet turn, bet river

Doesn't seem like that tough a hand really, and there were at least two people much shorter than you at the table

Thanks for responses. I see why I should be potting the flop now.

( ) 500bbs deep
(x) could´ve played better

Fold

I would have shipped flop. Takes the decision making out really.

As played, checking back the turn is fine. We are beaten by all 99 and 8x, however we absolutely crush the majority of other hands. We block his QJT combos from drawing out on us, and we will chop with a bunch of them if we both make the JT straight. No need to bet turn IMO since we are in a way ahead, way behind situation.

As played OTR, value bet. Our line doesn't look particularly like AAxx or KKxx, esp since we called the flop raise. We look more polarized to QQ-TT. We can be hero called by QQ-JJ, just tailor your sizing so that you don't blow these hands out. We never have 8xxx here since we didn't bet the turn, so in his eyes we should be relatively capped.

nope...

in the middle are $2350...eff stacks are $1730
we should built another sidepot....b/c about $500 seems fine..
we are huge fav....mp will get appealing odds with his draws/gutters/pockets and hardly find a fold...

river chk is actually ok if mp is a decent player, since you should never never never be bluffing here, and a bet into a dry side pot looks pretty much like exactly what you have. clearly its very rare that you're behind, but imo its even more rare that a good oppt pays you off. ofc if hes the type who wont realise any of this, or more commonly, will realise but call anyway, then betting is clearly profitable.

turn chk is pretty bad for reasons already given, and bc your line is the most inconsistent with having a strong made hand on the flop - you shouldnt have many 83 combos at all given preflop, you should be jamming most sets/98s on the flop (flatting bare 98 wouldnt be all that unreasonable but again, given preflop you usually have sidecards that offer enough additional equity to take immediate value over waiting for a favourable turn) - so if hes a thinking player he can pretty easily eliminate almost all fullhouses from your range and figure he has sufficient pot odds to continue vs a moderately sized bet with pretty much his entire flop range. if hes not a thinking player hes just as likely to call bc its a big pot and he clearly has some kind of hand he likes.

not jamming flop second time around is beyond awful.

Geit it in on flop to have sidepot with mp who cant fold anymore and you seem to have best hand here. Also no headaches anymore on coming streets.
As played I agree you have to valuebet turn to build new sidepot, imo 8/rainbow is the perfect turn for you vs mp. Think sth like 500-800 would be fine.
Then river get the rest in.

excellent post as usual from last action strat hero in hsplo

Dude you have like, an overpair, OESD, blockers to the nut wrap, BDFD... you have 11 outs vs a naked set and QJT (the nut draw on this board) has 4 outs vs you. How on Earth are you not snap fist pump getting it in otf???

even im shipping this flop

There is no way in this scenario that we should ever not ship flop to build a nice side pot if we don't win the main we will be taking down the side pot a lot and making up for losing the main pot