Multiwaypot with straddle on the BTN. Hero in BB with 3469ss (2 diamonds).
Flop is 235 rainbow with one diamond. (pot is 90€).
My stacksize is around 400BB. I was covering the most players on the table.I was 2nd to act after the SB. I checked the flop.
One nitty guy in MP (stack around 200BB) is poting and 2 guys in CO (300BB) and BTN (120 to 150BB) have called and I decided to just call the flop.
I guess this is a standard check/call flop spot deep oop.
Turn is K of diamonds.
Hero is now first to act. Hero?
Check with plan to c/r or lead out this turn?

Check jam

Check/jam and pot/call are both OK by me.

Would love to see the pot on each street (turn) and the pot and stacks in either bbs or Euros, but not both.

If you are sure that nitty guy is going to bet again then check/jam. But if he checks it is not good for you. I would just bet out.

Every reply should include "fold pre" in my opinion. You have bad position and a terrible hand.

Hero has 3 players left to act behind him, I think leading costs us money here because it basically eliminates the prospect of any dead money being in the pot.

There are only a few ways this street go.. hero checks, more often than not nitty V1 bets and one or both CO, Button call and then we jam and force a difficult decision for villain holding a combo draw with diamonds and we can eliminate 2 diamonds from V’s outs.

Hero checks
Villain checks
CO or BTN bets based on the button slowing down, Hero jams.

Hero checks and it checks through, hero bombs all safe turns

Hero leads, all fold... or hero gets one or multiple calls.

I think leading allows opponents to play better vs. us... ie if V calls, CO/BTN could be priced in to draw to the flush (and we hate a river diamond because basically any other diamond flush has us beat), boat, straight... and we don’t know which rivers are scare cards for us, so we are going to miss value by checking on rivers that are diamonds, pair the board or make a better straight possible... it’s a lot of cards.

7 diamonds
~15-16 cards that either make the 7/8 high straight possible or pair the board. So we’re going to be OOP, likely checking river if we can’t just get it in on this turn.


Edit: Could’ve miscalculated number of scare cards. Did it in my head waiting in the check out line at the grocery store.

I feel like you should go for a check/raise if you have a tight image because they aren't raising you when you lead out, but you should lead out if you have a loose image.

I tend to have a nitty image, so if I check/call flop and lead turn here, I am not getting raised by most opponents unless they have the nut straight plus a redraw. Someone with A4KK and the nut diamond draw isn't raising me. My regs are probably different from your regs, though.

Oh, and fold pre. Seriously.

Thank guys for you answers so far.
I don't remember exactly how I was involved in this hand but all I know, I was in BB and oop. It was a BTN straddle and I checked because I put a 10€ chip instead a 5€ preflop, so because of that it was "small" mistake to play the hand but anyway:
I checked on the turn and it was checked around. River was a blank, I lead out for 1/2 pot and the nitty guy who bet the flop moved all in, I called and it was chopped the pot...

I think flop x/c to lead brick turn is okay, but you wouldn't be folding out much equity if you just x/pot then folded a bad turn anyway, and you fold out some equity, so I think flop x/r is best.

Fold pre, not close.
I‘de repot flop.
As played i like a check. Your hand doesnt need thaaaat much protection

Fold pre even if it is a multiway pot with the straddler UTG and hero in the BB.

lead flop, as played jam turn.

check/jam

Against a normal UTG straddle this hand is a call pre in the BB, assuming the straddler does not straddle bomb frequently. Against a button strattle you should fold.

Flop is a clear raise.

K changes nothing except for backdoor diamond draw

x/r as most have said

also agree this hand is trash and should be folded pre