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04-19-2018 , 10:30 AM
Fullring live PLO 5-5€.
Everytime a dealer change, we play in our local casino so called "bump pot"this means every player who wants to play, pay 10BB preflop and the flop is coming directly and the game starts.
My stacksize is about 1400€ (and my winning so far are about 1,2k€, I am going to leave soon).
So pot is about 450€.
One solid player is moving in for 400€ another lose aggro guy is isoraising for more than 1000€. I am in the middle position and two solid guys with stacks between 1000 and 1400€ are behind me.
Flop is 783 rainbow. My holding is 5569. Do you like moving in here?
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04-19-2018 , 11:01 AM
yeah if you hate money
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04-19-2018 , 03:27 PM
Being deep and with solid guys behind you this seems like an excellent spot to decline to participate in the bump pot, i.e. fold pre.

If doing that is likely to invite boos and hisses from the regulars and irritate the fish, you could just rack up instead during the dealer change since you are leaving soon anyway.


As played fold, I think it's barely a call against the two players already in, but the big stacks behind get to play perfectly and if either comes in you are unlikely to be happy.

The problem of course is with everyone having blind hands you have no clue as to ranges and whether your outs are clean.

You really want both opponents already in to have made hands but that seems optimistic. If one is made and the other has random T9XX you are already in trouble.

And if they do both have made hands then it's highly unlikely big stacks behind you have one to call with (needing 88 basically), but they will will call something like JT9 and again you hate life.

Last edited by chalupa; 04-19-2018 at 03:44 PM.
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04-19-2018 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
yeah if you hate money


You got the wrong side of the wrap
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04-20-2018 , 09:22 AM
If your decision is influenced by the fact that you are up xx money and you are about to

leave the game,that is not good approach.Anyway when there is this much dead money people

will be very light here,but having 2 players committed and 2 more to act with bad wrap

this is clear fold to me.
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04-20-2018 , 04:05 PM
The pot is large enough that this is not an automatic fold but it is still a standard fold, with 2 backdoor flush draws I take a closer look
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04-29-2018 , 04:17 PM
With 9965 this is a gii but your hand is a bit too weak to commit your stack as others said. Lots of combo draws that have you in bad shape
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04-29-2018 , 08:52 PM
This is a good idea on dealer change.
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04-30-2018 , 03:03 PM
bomb pots are stupid and just give short stacks a huge edge.
they don't encourage gambling.
2 or 3 people flop big hands, they run it twice , it takes 5 minutes to chop the pot.more often than not nobody gets stuck and you just waste a bunch of time.
if whales are pushing for them i'll agree, but only if everyone agrees to just run them once.
if regs are the ones pushing for them then i'm not doing them.

as for the actual hand- your hand isn't that strong 8 ways. if you get all in 3 ways your equity will be ****.
i agree with the poster who said he would go for it with 9965.
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05-17-2018 , 03:30 PM
Bad spot to move in, you can get overwrapped a lot of the time.
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05-19-2018 , 10:09 AM
End up folding.The Problem was that it was a bomb pot, everybody was in whit all possible hands... I have to put my whole stack and all my winnings on this marginal draw. Like you guys suggest, it was better to let it go...
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05-20-2018 , 06:22 PM
I actually like this spot to GII. Since the board is rainbow, your opponents are probably sharing outs. The first guy and second guy can have 87 and 33, and you have 45% equity three ways.

The solid player is likely shoving with top pair at minimum, so I wouldn't give him too much credit unless he's a nit or only shoves with nuts or near nuts.

My real influencing decision is what the LAG is isoraising with. Would he do it with top pair? OESD? Wrap? Would he shove top set or just call?

You're probably in good shape. You can't always give your opponents credit for a magical JT98, 88,77 range. It's just not realistic.
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05-21-2018 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Shocked
The solid player is likely shoving with top pair at minimum, so I wouldn't give him too much credit unless he's a nit or only shoves with nuts or near nuts.
I would expect the solid player to have a higher minimum than that if he is actually solid. It sounds like he is shoving out of position into a bunch of random hands. I expect his range to look like a set, two pair with a straight draw, or a non-sucker wrap with plenty of nut outs. You might be an idiot if you are shoving any other hand in that spot. Even with stack depth as it is, I think he should check a hand like two overpairs.
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05-23-2018 , 10:23 AM
You had a chance to look at your cards before paying the 10bb.
As for the rest i dont even know why this is a thread. Easiest fold ever... just run some sims.
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05-24-2018 , 09:07 AM
@cardporn. No everybody who wants to play the bomb-pot have to pay 6BB (its 30€) before dealing the cards!
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