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Originally Posted by Bullwinkle
Are we agreed that we're not folding even if we bet smaller on the flop (eg - 35-50%)? Or are you saying the smaller bet might allow us to get away from this should the villian raise us the same/similar amount?
Depends on how aggro villain is here and how disciplined his hand selection is preflop (like could villain have jj54 preflop). Against a reasonably solid range, hero should have about 39.5% equity. Does villain turn 9x into bluffs ever or spazz with aa/kk xx hands? Have other low-equity bluffs? Does he overplay bare 87 or call any worse 6s instead of raise (like kk76 ds)? How agressive does he play wraps? Or a double-pair like 8877, tt77, tt88?
Certainly hero could sometimes call and fold to a terrible card like the 7c, where he is getting crushed against everything.
Its pretty hard to fold to a raise but there are certain live players who I could do it against this deep. Against a very narrow value range hero is going to have something like 22-27% equity.
Against the rare bird who only raises a boat hero only has ~9% equity and folding is easy.