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Old 07-30-2020, 03:47 PM   #1
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5/5/10 - Flop big, mistake to lead out?

Game is playing pretty big with numerous multiway pots and a mix of competent/tight pros and splashy recs. All players have over $1K on the table so no short stacks.

I'm 3rd blind($10) and early position player opens to $50, 4 other callers before it gets back to me(both $5 blinds folded) and I call with 8910A

Pot is $310 and flop is J67 with 67 of spades. I lead out $100 into the field. Should I be check/raising here to any bet or would you lead out?
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Old 07-30-2020, 06:19 PM   #2
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Re: 5/5/10 - Flop big, mistake to lead out?

Independent of how aggressive/passive the other players are in the game I like leading out. You get to build a pot with the nut draw hand and have players with inferior draws chase and can even get value hands like J7 in to be behind you.

I know others are gonna say really shouldn't be leading any pot first to act with 4 people behind because that range is absurdly tight so you should get folds; but in these types of loose action games I don't think it's wrong to bet most of the time when your equity is pretty good
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Old 07-30-2020, 09:13 PM   #3
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Re: 5/5/10 - Flop big, mistake to lead out?

Dislike the lead, would prefer a c/r 1k deep
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Old 07-31-2020, 01:43 AM   #4
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Re: 5/5/10 - Flop big, mistake to lead out?

Totally reasonable to lead here, but the small sizing does not make sense.

In a softer live game i tend to prefer check, as opponents will cbet and stack off too light - even when flop checks through and we improve on turn we will often get action.
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Old 07-31-2020, 09:53 AM   #5
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Re: 5/5/10 - Flop big, mistake to lead out?

Everyone folded which was surprising the way this game has been playing. I showed my neighbor my hand when folding and he pretty much said you shouldn't be betting that flop with that hand. There were a lot of hands I thought I would get action from but obviously no one had anything. Check was probably better play in hindsight although seems to be up for debate based on the above posts.
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Old 07-31-2020, 10:14 AM   #6
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Re: 5/5/10 - Flop big, mistake to lead out?

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Everyone folded which was surprising the way this game has been playing. I showed my neighbor my hand when folding and he pretty much said you shouldn't be betting that flop with that hand. There were a lot of hands I thought I would get action from but obviously no one had anything. Check was probably better play in hindsight although seems to be up for debate based on the above posts.
Like monikrazy said, the lead is alright, the sizing is weird for this board texture multiway.
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Old 07-31-2020, 07:53 PM   #7
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Re: 5/5/10 - Flop big, mistake to lead out?

Don't take advice from live players.

Lead is fine, if they all folded they weren't betting nor would make many strong hands on the turn, but as stated size it like you would a made hand so at least 250. Would guess I'm mixing equal c/rs with my leads though
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:39 PM   #8
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Re: 5/5/10 - Flop big, mistake to lead out?

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Game is playing pretty big with numerous multiway pots and a mix of competent/tight pros and splashy recs. All players have over $1K on the table so no short stacks.



I'm 3rd blind($10) and early position player opens to $50, 4 other callers before it gets back to me(both $5 blinds folded) and I call with 85/5/10 - Flop big, mistake to lead out?:95/5/10 - Flop big, mistake to lead out?105/5/10 - Flop big, mistake to lead out?:A5/5/10 - Flop big, mistake to lead out?:



Pot is $310 and flop is J67 with 67 of spades. I lead out $100 into the field. Should I be check/raising here to any bet or would you lead out?
You could lead $20 to get callers. lol.

A big part of PLO is to get your opponent to fold their equities. So if everyone folded here, I know it's a bit sad but it's not a bad result, you're probably only 60% against the table.

Also, have you lead any other hand? What is in your lead range? And do you lead with different sizings?
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