Villain is young white guy, full time pro with headphones. Pretty tight and capable of bluffing in big spots. Not much direct history. Covers me with 1500 effective.

Hero with KQJ9cccd in SB
EP limp, V in CO limp,, I pot to 50, both call

Flop (150): Kd 9h 2s
I bet 85, only V calls

Turn (320): 8h
I check, V bet 275, I call

Thoughts on turn line? I didn’t want to bet and get raised, or even called give there’s so many dynamic rivers. This also strengthens my checking range and gives me a decent bluffcatcher on blank rivers.

What’s the worse hand you are double barreling turn? Top 2+FD, NFD+OESD?

Vs. this V, I like the check on the turn (and your thinking). It does put a few draws out there that we don't have, but I'd hate to face a raise on the turn, and if he's capable of bluffing, let him bluff.

If he's hit a big draw or better, he's calling (or raising) turn anyway, so the river is still tough.

Pre I would just complete. Rest of the hand is a perfect example of why. Bloating pots oop with non-nut hands is a big-time losing play.

As played, flop bet looks good though I don't mind c/c with your hand.

As played, c/f turn. You only have 4 clean outs to the nuts, no blockers, no history on post flop tendencies, and too many bad rivers. Keep in mind that V limped in pre and is not likely the type of pro to inflate pots, so it's not unreasonable for you to be behind and drawing thin if he's betting this turn. Two pair is a massively losing hand in PLO. I'd only bet hands on the turn that I feel good about getting all-in.

Horrible advice the last one. Dont fold. These spots is where the money is made. One player might limp in and check the flop but you instead got yourself an opportunity to play for stacks as a 65% fav. Take it.

There are in fact profitable situations to pot OOP and this might be one depending on your opponents. If they are over passive like most live opponents taking the betting initiative has value, even in PLO. Also if they are playing trash you have a dominating rundown that is going to print on numerous favorable runouts.

Potting turn may have merit if your opponent can fold a set. You have 10-15% with your gutter if called by a set, the lower ones he will likely fold for $1500 if your image is nutted. That is decent insurance equity against that case.

Call turn and leading various straightening rivers has a lot of merit as you block them.

I think his hand looks a lot like hearts, possibly with a turned two pair now betting when you check. If he is going to bomb the river consider just calling but I like a turn jam given the size of the pot to your stack after you just flat.

raise pot

He has 3 Tens to nuts - 2 kings to the nuts - that's 5 outs. plus 2 more 9's that's 7 cards we like to see.

I wouldn't fold turn. That's crazy. Call or Rip for 150BB.

Don't like pre flop but meh

CRAI

Interesting spot.

To state the obvious we’re only behind 3 combos of 22, and 1 combo each of 99 and KK. How often does good tight pro check call hands w 22? How often does he limp KK? 99 makes sense but we block it. I think we’re ahead here and would probably CRAI. We have an equity advantage and are going to have a hard time playing a lot of rivers OOP.

Fold the turn and then quit poker.

Agreed

Only raise SB vs 1 opponent or with a super premium hand.

Flop. Check as you would with Aces. Check to raise flop. If he 3bets the flop we fold (not enough backup).

As played, check turn is good but only if you check raise. This is a very innocuous turn and it is extremely likely you are good. Bluff catch with your bluffcatchers, not your value hands. Turn you can put him all in which is great because you deny his equity with all but his strongest draws and you don't have to decide what to do on awkward rivers such as A, Q, J and 7.

Surprised everyone wants to C/R here (can't CRAI due to stacks). I guess I'm the only who thinks V has a ton of sets and other dominating hands in this spot. C/F is admittedly super nitty, but that's how I play PLO out of position unless I have a monster, and I didn't like leading, C/C, or C/R.

Curious to see what types of hands you guys think a "young white guy, full time pro with headphones" is flatting on the flop then almost potting turn. Keep in mind that hands that are both good enough to call the flop but also pick up a lot of equity on the turn would have most likely raised pre imo.

WTF are you guys talking about? Check folding the turn? What am I reading....

I bet smaller on the flop, and when I do that I would have bet turn. Check calling turn is w/e but folding is the dumbest thing I've heard in awhile in a plo hand.

I hope you are the only one who thinks there are a ton of sets out when we have a k and a 9 no hearts and the other card is a deuce, lmfao check folding top two with a gutter and no hearts wtf is going on

I probably wouldn't even be in this spot so no need to c/f and I'm sorry I'm not as good at poker as you, but keep laughing at the rec players that the games are built around, buddy, I'm sure that will continue to work great for you. Stay humble.

Assuming you checked, would you c/c or c/r?

Yeah I can't see how check fold could be correct against like anyone.

C/c, Crai, b/c even bet/fold are all possible. C/f is just terrible.

This really is one of the best hands to check on the turn so in a vacuum I probably check although in practice, in a live setting, I usually end up betting here just because most people don’t bluff enough in these spots live. Not at these stakes anyway.

Flop should have been a pot bet.

Turn is a check call.

Villain’s range on turn is super heavily weighted towards combo draws. I would play the hand accordingly


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The flop is about as dry as they come. The only draw that is there is the inside wrap, which hero covers. Why do you want to use a pot sizing?

Depends on my opinion of the opponent. I'd be more likely to call.

Pot preflop, pot flop, pot turn.

Pot preflop, your flop bet, c / raise turn all in.

Pot pot pot!



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