in mp, i raise to 30 with JJ87
next guy behind me reraises to 115
hes been aggro and pushing me around and making me fold and ive been letting him cause oop sucks.

button cold calls 115, sb calls, i call

flop Q94 (4 players)

checks to reraiser, he pots 475 with 700 behind, i cover

folds to me, do i shove or fold? if it was HU i think its an easy shove, but for him to pot into 3 other players gave me pause. hes an average player who is aggressive, def has it out for me hence his reraise of me preflop (this was not the first time hes 3bet me pre). but i would imagine his cbet range even into 3 is wider than most, ie, i would expect him to be betting naked AA here but thats prob the bottom of his range. so yeah i would think hes betting two pair and stuff too. i think hes never folding to a crai unless he was on a stone bluff into 3 players, which i think is pretty rare. so hes gonna be getting it in

"if" this is a fold, whats the bottom of my range to shove in the spot? is there any range to just call? on second thought, maybe if hes never folding to a crai, i should just check/call flop which would allow me to maybe fold if another Q rolls off turn?

I definitely ship in this spot against described villain with stack sizes

what range do you put him on?

Id rather call than ship. Might use our blockers ott sometimes even though he rarely folds.

"use our blockers" meaning lead shove turn if it blanks?

i think this is a clear fold. kk,aa+ flush draw are crushing you, nutflush draw crushes you, else you re almost never better than flipping and need 38% or so?
the bottom of you range should probably be q9xx, nfd, or sth like q4xx with hearts.

+1 With no fold equity really I think you can just plug a reasonable range for villain in and stove our breakeven range as well

No, ship when the straight gets there.

i`d fold...but its close

Is the fold really close?

I wouldn't fold vs this villain even with a guy behind

two guys... flop was 4way and he bet into 3 people.

Now Im actually thinking that we should fold here because flop was 4way but I would ship if it was 3way. Is it really that close?

If we aren't shipping here against this guy I dunno when we'll do it...

Ok it's close but I still ship this deep (120BB, isn't it?)

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

board: Q94

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
JdJh7d8h	41.13%	245,668	2,196
AA:hh, KJT:15%,JT8:15%,KK:hh,Q$b$b$b,Q15%,hh), Q9:15%	58.87%	352,136	2,196

You can edit the sim and put a more accurate range, but it seems like we have about 40% equity vs his pot/call range.