UTG: $2650.32
MP: $1610.75
CO: $518.40
Hero: $3122.25
SB: $1307.01
BB: $2858.66


Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BTN with K Q 9 T
UTG calls $10, MP calls $10, 1 folds, Hero raises to $55, 1 fold, BB raises to $190, UTG calls $180, 1 fold, Hero calls $135

Flop: ($585.00) K T 8 (3 players)
BB bets $585, UTG raises to $2340, Hero?



BB is fairly new to the table, no reads or relevant stats.
UTG is playing 53/16 but pretty straight forward postflop. he's limp/folded to raises a couple of times, so when he's limp calling 3bets cold UTG, i put him on a pretty good range. no history with either player.

all 3 options seem viable but calling seems to be my least favourite. if i had a BDFD i'd ship. maybe this is a standard spot, i don't know. i've been running like $30K under expectation for the past 2 months so i'm not thinking straight, thanks for the input.

I'm pretty troubled by BB's lead into two players given that all of you are 250BB deep. If BB had just 100BB and the only person you were deep with was UTG, I'd stack off here without thinking cause in that scenario BB's range is gonna be fairly wide, including naked AAxx etc, and therefore UTG will have wider range too. Unfortunately we have a different situation on our hands.

Try assigning them reasonable ranges and see how your equity fares against them.

No one is going to tell you to fold

pretty clear fold imo.

heh

Very easy fold. Unless you like getting your stack in deep with between four to six outs against a set. And I'm giving credit to UTG for having a set.

When you're drawing super slim against a portion of someones range, chopping with another portion, and coinflipping with the last portion... it's typically a fold.

Let's also say that UTG also has KT (which I think is very optimistic considering I think his range is weighted to be much stronger), it's going to be nice when BB calls with an AJQx type hand and you're stack is at risk for a chop.

yea, let's get it in vs. a range of wraps, sets, and two pair + wraps because we're pot committed

my main concern was UTG, since for him to call 3bets, he's gotta have a pretty strong range, esp since he's squished between me and the BB.

i was fairly certain that BB had pretty good aces for him to pot into the both of us.
UTG can be isolating with a pair+wrap type hand, maybe 89TJ, i wasn't sure at the time.

still, i was pretty lost in the hand and not sure what's better, shoving or folding, even though a lot of ppl have said fold.

I really don't see how UTG has a set remotely often here based on PF. A 53/16 that folds to 3-bets a lot is going to raise KK up PF pretty much every time and will fold the vast majority of his TT and 88 hands when faced with the cold 3-bet. Just on that basis, I'd be willing to get it in here. There's also the fact that we still have 4-8 outs even if we do run into a set so our equity should never be too bad and the fact that we have blockers/possible split cards if we're up against a wrap which should help our equity even more.

If we didn't have reason to narrow UTG's range down based on preflop, or if we had a read that BB didn't C-bet that much, then this would probably be a fold, but as is, I think it's a close shove.