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Old 07-28-2009, 12:52 PM   #1
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400PLO: Played set on A-high board passive

Note on villain was that he donked into 4 ppl with weak TP+weakFD and fired a wrap completing turn that gave him 2 pair; so he is barelling possible overvaluing hands. Even given that, there is no FD here and only a broadway wrap for draws; If he is betting a made hand I am only ahead of AJ here; is flatting the turn best or should I just be getting it in? On river, given his range of better made hands and missed draws is a check back best?
Hand #1
Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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UTG: $557.80
MP: $493.10
CO: $941.50
Hero (BTN): $677.00
SB: $815.40
BB: $400.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with 7 5 6 6
UTG raises to $14, 2 folds, Hero calls $14, 2 folds

Flop: ($34.00) J A 6 (2 players)
UTG bets $24, Hero calls $24

Turn: ($82.00) 9 (2 players)
UTG bets $60, Hero calls $60

River: ($202.00) A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

This villain is TAG aggro and a solid winner. The HH didnt convert perfectly; villain was utg and raised and I flatted the btn. Villain was utg and was firing two pot sized bets on a A-high board. Should I still be raising turn or is calling down better? River same situation as above I cant see a hand that he pays off with once he checks; and he might go for a c/r with AAXX given the FD completed. b/c? check?
Hand #2
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CO: $396.00
Hero (BTN): $504.00
SB: $749.00
BB: $1473.90

Pre Flop: ($4.00) Hero is BTN with Q 4 K K
BB raises to $12, 1 fold, Hero calls $12, 1 fold

Flop: ($28.00) A 8 K (2 players)
BB bets $28, Hero calls $28

Turn: ($84.00) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $84, Hero ?

River: ($252.00) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero requests TIME, Hero ?
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Old 07-28-2009, 12:56 PM   #2
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Re: 400PLO: Played set on A-high board passive

I'd bet both.

I just don't see either of them checking the river with a full house very often, esp. given their descriptions.
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Old 07-28-2009, 01:56 PM   #3
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Re: 400PLO: Played set on A-high board passive

hand two is a slam dunk get the money in spot.............he will show up with countless draws, two pairs, 88 and the gross AA. As you can see you range crushes his range so get it in there. I kind of like the the flat on the flop so he fires and "commits" himself more to the hand with the weaker end of his range.

Hand one I like how it was played out. If you dont go with the hand on the turn keep with the passive route and check it back now the river falls such a nasty card.
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Old 07-28-2009, 02:49 PM   #4
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Re: 400PLO: Played set on A-high board passive

i'd prolly raise the turn on both of them, and if not, i'd bet the river on both
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:04 PM   #5
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Re: 400PLO: Played set on A-high board passive

Hand 1 I bet 120-150 and hope he pays off with a bare Ace. I lol when he calls JJxx.

Hand 2 I raise the turn, as played I bet like 200 on the river.
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Old 07-28-2009, 03:44 PM   #6
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Re: 400PLO: Played set on A-high board passive

Hand 2 seems like the much easier one to bet the river. I don't mind how hand 1 was played, but I like raising the turn.
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Old 07-28-2009, 06:11 PM   #7
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Re: 400PLO: Played set on A-high board passive

hand 1 i raise turn .
hand 2 i would prob 3 bet preflop as played u have to raise somewhere and or bet 220ish on river
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Old 07-28-2009, 06:26 PM   #8
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Re: 400PLO: Played set on A-high board passive

Not raising the turn in Hand Two is criminal imo.
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Old 07-28-2009, 06:53 PM   #9
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Re: 400PLO: Played set on A-high board passive

Hand 1 i don't think he's EVER checking AJXX to u, where he might c/c with AKXX, or AQXX. I think it's a clear bet for value.

Hand 2 i'm bet calling and betting about 170
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Old 07-28-2009, 06:54 PM   #10
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Re: 400PLO: Played set on A-high board passive

1: b/f ~120
2. b/f ~140
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:06 PM   #11
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Re: 400PLO: Played set on A-high board passive

I like the check in hand 1, there's only a couple of hands you beat that he calls with, and he's calling or check-raising a lot of stuff that beats you, and possibly check-raising some bluffs. Hand 2, you've got the third nuts, you've played it passively, you could have had a hand like KQJT and be deciding to turn it into a bluff, and his check on the river with only 1.5x the pot left means he probably doesn't have you beat and probably isn't planning on check-raising, so I would bet and expect to get looked up by the nut flush and any worse houses he may have.
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Old 07-28-2009, 09:34 PM   #12
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Re: 400PLO: Played set on A-high board passive

hand 2 I ship the turn
how did BB raise before you BTW?
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