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3 way, 3b Preflop - Call off on flop? 3 way, 3b Preflop - Call off on flop?

10-22-2020 , 12:17 PM
Game is 5/5 with about 90% button or UTG straddle. 8 or 9 handed, can't remember at this time. Straddle is any amount from 10-30. Hero is currently up about $7,500 running like pure God (also playing well). Wide 3b image, LAG PLO.

EP Villian is TAG PLO player, usually has a strong hand when raising preflop (a suited Ace and some connectors, Strong QQ, Strong KK+). Stack of 2,000, in for 1k. Plays for living

LP Villain: PLO Crusher, Currently down maybe $5,000. Just reloaded for $3,000. Has about $3,500 in play. Plays a loser range, will 3b wider, has very good in hand instincts and reads. Plays for living

OTTH

Hero (Covers Villains) on the Button, button straddle to $20. AdAx4d6x

SB/BB Limp
EP Vill from Natural UTG spot pots to $100 (2k ish stack)
LP in HJ flats $100
Hero on button, AA46 nut diamonds, pots to $440.
EP tanks for 20-30 seconds than flats.
LP Vill flats $440 and says "this is the wide, don't punish me"

Flop $1,360: 233r no diamonds

EP checks
LP checks
Hero bets $525

Thoughts on this bet?

EP tanks for a minute+, maybe 2 minutes. Genuinely looks pained. I think he's going to fold. He then jams $1550.
LP rejams within a couple seconds, $2,940 is his stack

What does hero do?????!!!

On to hero, $2,415 to call. Pot size before I call is 6375, main pot being $4,985 and so far a side pot of $1,390, which doubles to $2,780 if hero calls, and Main pot grows to $6,010.

I'm not buying EP having a 3 at all. I think his best made hand here is KK. AA he re-pots preflop. at best, he has KK with a straight draw, KK45, KK46, KK56 etc. I do not put him on wrap, as I think a hand like 4567, he would limp preflop.

LP has an uncapped range here, could definitely have a hand like 4567, 456x, 3XXX etc.

WHAT DO I DOOO?!?!?!?!?
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10-22-2020 , 04:23 PM
I fold. You have an A46 blocking a lot of the wraps. LP definitely has a 3 or 22. They know you have AA but LP isn't repopping EP without a 3 or 22.
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10-22-2020 , 07:28 PM
ez fold with 2 ppl
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10-24-2020 , 07:04 AM
LP has you beat most of the time. Agreed you should be ahead of EP usually
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10-24-2020 , 07:31 PM
Standard fold on this action, its not often we have enough equity.

Flop decision when checked to is interesting - i think we might prefer to size a little smaller, like 1/3 instead but not a big deal.

I think checkback is reasonable with very few 3s in our range, gutshot but would be better it we had the backdoor diamonds, especially against villains who might jam light. We are kind of deep to bet/call.
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12-15-2020 , 08:51 AM
i mean sorta sounds like bad game selection since its a table full of regs who play for a living
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12-15-2020 , 11:55 AM
I've played a lot of Omaha in my life, mostly hilo. Almost all social, no rake home games.

But unless the villains are complete donks (which they're not as described), is two pair ever good on a paired flop with this kind of action?

In my experience, no.
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12-15-2020 , 09:42 PM
Fold is fine, but I think you can call off with some specific tilt reads. If he's genuinely good then fold is good.

I don't think you should check back your hand though. I'd go a bit smaller though.
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12-17-2020 , 08:32 PM
bet $350 and fold to action..theres no reason to bloat the pot, i mean what kind of hands do you expect to get action from here when you bet that big? especially after squeezing preflop..your hand is almost face up in a sense that even if UTG folds and LP raises your going to be a tough spot here. i still think betting > checking but sizing too large without a 3,45 or 2 in your hand is just asking for max pain.
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12-18-2020 , 05:30 PM
Seems like an easy fold
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12-18-2020 , 10:11 PM
Ok here is my subjective view. I play long sessions (both live and online) of at least 8 hours. Without fail over the course of every single session, players just give their money away. You don't have to do anything on the margins.

#1 GTO
#2 exploitative play
#2a waiting for players to just give you their money.

If you bet/fold AA64 on a 332 board, then you turned your hand into a bluff. There is no way in crap hell I am turning AA64 into a bluff here. Everyone over time gets their flopped quads so disregard that. Therefore, an Ace on turn or river is golden. And a 5 on the turn or river gives you a straight on a paired board that has some showdown value. On a multi-way flop just Check-back the flop with the view this hand is yet another boring hand. Wait for other hands in which you free roll players. Or you have nut flushes and they still pay you off. Or you have nut straights and they still pay you off. Have I mentioned it yet that players just give their money away in this game?

Players give their money away in 4 card holdem.

Online 6 max I would say I sit there for 8+ hours a day when I play and I constantly am a favorite 55/45 or better.

Live is the same, but better. It is 8+ hours of watching x-files reruns on my phone while getting it in as a favorite of at least 60/40.

And people talk about positional awareness, but seldom do I see any "stack depth" awareness. Players give their money away and it doesn't matter if it is 100bb or 500bb. My local casino was $5/5 or $5/T and players burn through a $2,000 buy-in on a bad draw all the time.

Players just give their money away in this game. Sit back and wait for them to give it to you when you have a monster hand. That is my omaha philosophy, if you have a different view, then I ain't mad at ya.

Last edited by ladybruin; 12-18-2020 at 10:40 PM.
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12-19-2020 , 07:07 PM
Quote:
If you bet/fold AA64 on a 332 board, then you turned your hand into a bluff.
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12-20-2020 , 02:08 AM
InkyPoker, be careful parsing one of my sentences or I'll ***** slap you around this forum like I did a couple of weeks ago. Of course my meaning wasn't to take a hand that has showdown value and "turn it into a bluff" to get a better hand to fold.

In the less than one month of your 2+2 account you haven't done crap except act like a jackass. Grow a pair of balls and act like a man instead of a child.

But hey, the high stakes forum is slow, I'm sure everyone will enjoy this. Come at me bro, let's see how this goes for you. Round 1 had you running and hiding.

Last edited by ladybruin; 12-20-2020 at 02:23 AM.
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12-20-2020 , 02:17 AM
lol wat.
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12-20-2020 , 02:22 AM
Is there like, any chance at all you'd accept a hu grudge match? Because if not I'm not gonna waste my time.
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12-20-2020 , 02:25 AM
Come to our club in Columbus, games play big enough to satisfy y'all desire

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12-20-2020 , 02:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jtm1208
Come to our club in Columbus, games play big enough to satisfy y'all desire
Jtm1208, I accept.

InkyPoker, since the join date on your 2+2 account is less than a month old troll territory and even your other accounts are weak sauce compared to mine, you are required to post a pic of an airplane travel confirmation to Columbus. I will then book a flight for the same time frame.

Ummm, why do I think inkypoker doesn't have the balls to follow through. This little boy is about to be telling some sob story about how he isn't allowed out of his parent's basement during covid.

Last edited by ladybruin; 12-20-2020 at 02:36 PM.
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12-20-2020 , 03:20 PM
Actually my old account is Sol Reader, I made this account due to starting a stream.

I am playing 1/2 2/5 on stream right this second. Where are you based? Can you play on stars.com?

Let's get this rolling, 2/5 2 tables. Can do higher.

Okay just saw you're in america.

No I'm down to do it, just need to find a site and put money on. 2 tables 2/5 okay? or 3/6 5/10? I'd be streaming it as well, you can gain extra advantage. Cool?

All I ask is a small escrow to make sure you're not wasting time. 1k is fine. I will do the same obv.
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12-20-2020 , 03:27 PM
Also to be clear I am NOT a hu specialist. Was never PLO HU reg, though did play fish on small sites, was a HUNL reg like 7 years ago or something.
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12-20-2020 , 04:01 PM
InkyPoker, you came into another player's thread. You posted the only meme in this thread, which already proves you to be an awkward high stakes poster. You pasred a single sentence out of someone's post again proving you to be nothing but a troll. And you just glossed over the OP of this thread offering to host a game at his club.

I accepted the OP's offer.

InkyPoker are you not old enough to travel without your mommy and daddy? The high number of troll posts on your 2+2 account that is less than a month old shows you have no social skills. Are you afraid to play in person? I'm posting this from the beach in San Diego and I snap called the OP's offered when I logged in this morning to come play in Columbus about 2,000 miles away. The OP stated his game has good players and even PLO crushers. Somehow I think you don't have the balls to play a full table of skilled PLO players at $5/5. I snap called the offer to play in a super tough lineup at $5/5. You need to put up or shut up.

Unless you are willing to grow some balls and put your big boy pants on and play at the OP's club in Columbus, then get the **** out of this thread.

Last edited by ladybruin; 12-20-2020 at 04:26 PM.
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12-20-2020 , 04:12 PM
Oh so... you're not willing to play online or?

Like dude, I'm obv not gonna travel to another country to play HU in the middle of a pandemic for peanut stakes wtf. I'm making it 100% easy for you. I'll try to put money on whatever site and we can play.

At this point it's obv you're just bluffing lol. Just take the L and shut up.

Got me excited for a second thought it'd happen.
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12-20-2020 , 04:17 PM
I'll snap escrow 20k, nbd. We can play on play money on stars.net or whatever and settle with the escrow. I'll pay vig on escrow. I just want to stream it.

No side bet or anything, just minimum hands or you forfeit the sb and bb during those hands.

Last edited by InkyPoker; 12-20-2020 at 04:22 PM.
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12-20-2020 , 04:24 PM
You want to come to the Vic in London, I'll play there too. That's how stupid your challenge is lol.
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12-20-2020 , 04:28 PM
InkyPoker, PM both the OP and me when you grow a pair of balls.
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12-20-2020 , 04:31 PM
????? I'm not afraid of you, say whatever you wanna say right here.

Will you play online or not? 2 tables 2/5+.

Yes or no question, extremely easy to answer.

I'm not gonna waste time travelling everyone knows that's stupid bs that will never happen.

And stop saying grow balls or man whatever.

Edit:

With all your talk of balls and man this man that, you're gonna back down on a challenge with extremely reasonable terms from a woman? It's just 2 tables of 2/5, you can't even lose that much. Let's do it.

VAMOOOS

Last edited by InkyPoker; 12-20-2020 at 04:54 PM.
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