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3/6 HU - playing against a lead... 3/6 HU - playing against a lead...

01-12-2012 , 10:15 AM
Its early in the match versus someone who is pretty likly to be a reg...havenīt played many flops at all...lots of pre flop raise/folding stuff as we booth played kinda tight oop and very loose on button.

Villain havenīt lead flop so far.

[converted_hand][hand_history]IPoker, $3/$6 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11626482

BB: $977 (162.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $609 (101.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3 2 9 8
Hero raises to $18, BB calls $12

Flop: ($36) T 3 7 (2 players)
BB bets $27, Hero calls $27

Turn: ($90) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($90) K (2 players)
BB bets $67.50, Hero ?

I think flop is marginal but i prefer to float here given position+ equity even without knowing what villain is leading but calling to figure out canīt be to bad...

Turn:

I was really thinking hard about the turn but was really confused what villain is leading flop that he is c/f now?

Do you expect to have FE in generell on turn? I donīt - i think we mostly get c/c by pair + draw or c/r by big draw or draw +madehand (or occ. a set).

I think i should have 50%+ equity wise on turn against his c/c range which make me wanna bet turn but i backed down fearing a cR (end up pot controlling).

As played on river all i beat is a pair+ busted draw that he is now bluffing with. He easily can vbet every rivered 2pair ofc. and given that all draws brick and i represent kinda SD value it seems a bad bluffing spot for villain so sucks to bluff catch here even when i rarly get to river with 2pair as played too.

Question:

Flop: Mandatory call?
Turn: You bet or chk back - if you bet - how do you react to cR?
river: To bluff catch or not?If you think its loosing call in vaccuum - Do you still call (or information/reads etc.)


Thanks!
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01-12-2012 , 04:15 PM
bet 78 on turn
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01-12-2012 , 04:41 PM
how are we doing ott vs a c/raise?
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01-12-2012 , 06:49 PM
call river. he shouldnt have a ton of 2 pairs and ure range looks super weak. plus he cud have a ton of busted crap and ****ty kings he might turn into bluffs.
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01-12-2012 , 09:24 PM
Bet turn, call river. Vilain's not c/fing turn much, but he's c/cing worse a ton.
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01-13-2012 , 04:36 AM
How would you guys reacrt to a turn c/R? How often do you expect to see a c/R?
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01-13-2012 , 05:19 AM
if its there first lead i'm comfortable stacking off to a turn c/r
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01-13-2012 , 11:16 PM
To the turn c/r guys- we arent fairing well vs a turn checkraise but he wont be checkraising that often and will be calling with alot of pair+draw hands that we have good equity against and folding alot of hands with non neglible equity. Losing money by not betting even if folding to cr 100% (which obc we arent)
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01-14-2012 , 03:38 AM
Betting turn imo, not entirely sure how to react to a c/r, bet/call reeval river I guess.
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01-14-2012 , 04:31 AM
If we get CRed on turn more than 3% of the time, I'd be surprised.
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01-14-2012 , 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by iggymcfly
If we get CRed on turn more than 3% of the time, I'd be surprised.
So sounds like you prefer b/f on turn?

I mean anyway i agree that betting turn is probably best even if we would made a bad (in worst case because he is going crazy with cr on turn which we canīt assume as default) b/f?
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01-14-2012 , 06:27 AM
No, it's a super ugly spot if we get raised on the turn, but I'd still get it in. We're only really in bad shape against 2 pair + hearts. Just saying it's not a very serious consideration to our decision whether to bet or not.
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01-14-2012 , 08:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by iggymcfly
If we get CRed on turn more than 3% of the time, I'd be surprised.
tbh there are quite a few hands that c/r turn
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01-14-2012 , 04:55 PM
Why did u check back the turn? afraid of c/r? very unlikely this is, young padawan. #justkidding

Well if I am right, villain sees you a straighforward guy w/ reggish stats (because u are from Germany and germans don't get out of line that much ldo) so after your flop and turn plays he probably evaluated your range on the semi-weak side, so he's going to take a stab pretty much always here.
His range OTT is heavily weighted towards pair + draws and I you have to bet here(for protection y0 and ofc not being afraid of a c/r).

River is a call and don't get upset if he binked kings up
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01-14-2012 , 05:35 PM
hmm I think I'm fairly often c/r this turn. On the one hand I hate 80% of the rivers with my two pair hands, on the other hand there are a lot of draws out there. I think my c/r percentage is by far higher than my c/c percentage. Am I the only one who plays like that?
I think I'm b/c this turn and as played calling the river
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01-14-2012 , 06:43 PM
Given stacks and texture, bet/shoving turn pretty happily. We're never dead and rarely crushed, favorite vs most of his semibluffs.
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