I'm an average plo player that started playing some 3/6 and 5/10 plo on PPPoker. 6 handed tables are usually filled with aggros who love to 3 bet pre, defend with a wide range, and play aggressive post flop. How do you play against these types of players? I was normally playing tight and waiting for the right spots. Made a bit of money but was a rollercoaster ride this week. Also I feel like these guys have a much much bigger bankroll than me which gives them an advantage to play aggressive against me, am I correct? Thanks.

Sounds like you might not be rolled appropriately and if that’s the case then yes, massive advantage. A sufficient roll for a 5/T PLO game is like $75k-$100k, and other than the occasional shot taking expedition, I wouldn’t dream of playing with less than $50k. A world class player can lose $50k playing 5/10 plo so fast it’s nauseating.... which I’m not and by admission you’re OK... I’m not telling you what to do, but if you’re playing 5/10 by buying in for 500 with a balance of maybe a couple grand from a tourney score or sumtin then my advice would be to cash out and hit a blackjack table, roulette table, or craps table...

I see. Ya i gave myself a roll of 4-5k and said if I lose it then I won't return til I do have the proper role. I just saw so many bad players playing and couldn't help but to jump on. Made 3k for the week but could have easily been up nearly 10k with a change of a couple river cards. Won't be returning because never experienced this type of disgusting variance. I probably should have never gave it a shot, but I enjoy taking the occasional shot at a chance to win some good money.

If you're complaining about being down basically the equivalent of 3 pots gone the wrong way in the river you have never seen variance

hahahah...and on that note I will not be playing 5/10 plo ever again

Wrt to the quality of aces and 4! — IMO playing double suited aces for a flat pf when your opponent 3! - you’ve got a good chance of totally dominating villains 3! Range with a hand like AdKcAcQd vs what we have here. In this spot, I’m gonna hope he’s 3! Kings or Queens and look to GII pre while I still have more equity. I’m kind of ok w turning the hand face up with a 4! Or 5! So I get a certain % pf folds from V.

I play similar stakes on PPPoker, and 5k is absolutely nothing. The nature of the PPpoker games is that they play deep, because buy in is capped usually at like 2500 BB ands there are only a couple of tables that reset every 12 hours or so, so you can't just table hop and go south. I've won and lost 10k in a week easily in these clubs.

Also, most of these clubs offer $.50/$1 or 1/2. Why not start there and move up the ranks. Your 5k gives you a reasonable bankroll for .50/1, and a short bankroll for 1/2.

So much this. One of the best PLO players in the room I'm a reg in currently lost 3k 3 days a row in 1/2/(5). It's insanely easy/standard to lose 4 or 5 big multiway stackoffs with good aces or whatever else. LOL at 3 5-buyin pots.

100k swings are pretty standard in 5/10 normal stacked plo games (1kbuyin sitting 100-300bb normally)... if you're talking about games that probably play 500+bb deep with 250bb buyins and your looking at 200kish swings from my experience. In my experience easiest way to tell what to expect for your worst swings to be is think of the biggest pot you've played (either won or lost) and times it by 20. You complaining about 5k swings is pretty oblivious to variance.... isnt that smaller then the biggest pot you've played in these games? Not saying you can't shot take especially in good games just be prepared to lose everything a large portion of the time if you are not properly rolled for downswings.

I don't think I've ever been on a downswing of 100+ BIs ever. Im currently in a downswing this year between 5/10 & 10/20 live and im net minus roughly 40BIs, and that's close to the worst ive ever run at these stakes.

That's live poker, though.

I'm not going to argue with someone as everyone's experiences are different. This distribution pretty much summed up my live experience. I've done a lot more math on this subject then most people as well. http://www.pokerdope.com/poker-variance-calculator/ Is a fun tool to play around with and I used to mess with when I was more obsessed with determining what my actual winrate was.

Downswings in numbers
For this anlysis a downswing is defined as any period where the current total winnings are below the maximum previous total winnings. Any downswing is considered to last until the total winnings at least equal the previous peak.
The following tables are derived by a simulation over 100 million hands. The first one shows how often the simulated player was in the middle of a downswing of at least X BB, the second one how often he was in a downswing which lasted at least X hands.
In general these simulations underestimate the likelyhood and extent of downswings.

Occurrence rates for downswing extents and downswing stretches for a player with a 30.00 BB/100 winrate and a 400.00 BB/100 standard deviation.
Downswing extents

300+ BB 68.75%
500+ BB 67.44%
750+ BB 65.74%
1000+ BB 63.75%
1500+ BB 59.67%
2000+ BB 55.03%
3000+ BB 45.77%
5000+ BB 30.36%
7500+ BB 15.80%
10000+ BB 7.93%
15000+ BB 1.37%
20000+ BB 0.46%

Live winrate are very very different from online though, therefore the chance of a downswing is extremely different.