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Old 01-04-2019, 06:01 PM   #1
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25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

Decided to take a shot at a higher game.
Hero sitting with ~$6K.

V1: $9K. Played with many times, they are extremely tight, generally only betting with the nuts, rarely bluffing

V2: $8K Never played with before.


Button straddles to $100, SB folds, BB raises to $350, V1 calls, V2 calls, hero calls in cutoff w/ K776, button folds.

Flop ($1500): 873

V1 bets $1500.
V2 takes about a minute before deciding to call.


V1's range is heavily weighted towards top set, 2p+NFD, SD+FD and better. Given this range and my specific holding, V2 has got to be behind either V1 or me in terms of raw equity just comparing two hands.

Not sure that I can stomach jamming on a nit who leads pot into 3 people, but also not sure that I can stomach folding.

Hero? Advice on all streets appreciated.
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Old 01-04-2019, 06:45 PM   #2
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Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

Jam

Also, fold pre
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Old 01-04-2019, 07:53 PM   #3
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Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

don't take shots if you're going to be scared money
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Old 01-05-2019, 12:13 AM   #4
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Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

If this spot is anything other than a jam then you are in the wrong game.
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Old 01-05-2019, 04:45 AM   #5
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Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

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Jam

Also, fold pre
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don't take shots if you're going to be scared money
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If this spot is anything other than a jam then you are in the wrong game.
All of these. Pre is so bad if this spot confuses you
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Old 01-05-2019, 09:46 AM   #6
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Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

you're 50 blinds effective what's the question with mid set and 2nd nut flush draw?
this has got to be a top 1% of flops with your hand so why are you playing the hand if you're still scared to get it in?
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:09 AM   #7
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Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

Absurdly easy jam. Sorry they had 88 and nfd
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Old 01-05-2019, 12:29 PM   #8
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Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

fold pre. this is a very weak second best hand, especially in full ring.
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Old 01-05-2019, 02:44 PM   #9
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Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

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fold pre. this is a very weak second best hand, especially in full ring.
Jam, but this guy has it right about folding pre

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Old 01-06-2019, 09:17 AM   #10
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Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

Flopping the nizzles and not wanting to get 60bb in says a lot about this hand, and probably your spot in the game too...
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Old 01-06-2019, 09:44 PM   #11
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Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

Wow, this is quite a shot you moved up to take

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    WPN, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935297

    CO: $26.03 (104.1 bb)
    BTN: $25.05 (100.2 bb)
    SB: $9.25 (37 bb)
    BB: $21.68 (86.7 bb)
    Hero (MP): $26.23 (104.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 8 9 A A
    Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

    Flop: ($2.55) 7 J 2 (3 players)
    SB bets $0.25, BB folds, Hero calls $0.25

    Turn: ($3.05) A (2 players)
    SB bets $0.25, Hero raises to $3.65, SB calls $3.40

    River: ($10.35) Q (2 players)
    SB bets $4.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.50

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    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.


    Weird flop and turn sizings. Turn he snap called my raise. Can we get away from this?
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    Old 01-07-2019, 01:00 AM   #12
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    Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

    not really that rare for people to play significantly higher stakes live
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    Old 01-09-2019, 11:38 AM   #13
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    Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

    Hero ends up jamming the flop.

    V1 shows up with 88xx, V2 shows up with Ax

    ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
    600,000 trials (Randomized)
    board: 873
    Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
    8859.67% 356,5323,090
    ahh32.96% 196,6082,346
    kh7h76s7.37% 42,4573,537



    Guess I just wanted confirmation that you can never fold there
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    Old 01-09-2019, 12:27 PM   #14
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    Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

    I suppose this thread wouldn't exist unless they had exactly those hands
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    Old 01-11-2019, 03:16 AM   #15
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    Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

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    Old 01-11-2019, 09:23 AM   #16
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    Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

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    Old 01-16-2019, 02:44 AM   #17
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    Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

    Fold pre

    Then fold pre

    Then fold pre again

    Oh you got to the flop somehow, this is a speed of light jam and I'll be quite happy about it
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    Old 01-16-2019, 07:23 AM   #18
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    Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

    all in flop
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    Old 01-19-2019, 05:02 PM   #19
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    Re: 25/50 PLO: Jam or fold flop multi-way?

    >OP gets coolered
    >makes thread to help himself feel better
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