Basically every player at the table is a whale of some sort.

Mp limp i open co 125 ThTd9h8d btn sb bb and mp call
Flop 9d8c3s(625)
Xx mp 375 I? Call 2.8k left
Turn Ts(1375)
Mp 700 I? Fold

Family pot poker.

Okay, how about we pretend it was just heads up on the flop and ask how you would play the hand. Then you can ask yourself what if anything you want to change in family pot poker.

Heads up scenario...
Pre-flop MP limps and you successfully isolation raise him with ThTd9h8d and it is heads up to the flop.

The flop comes 9d8c3s and the MP player donks into you. What would you do with top two pair on a medium low rainbow board? With 100bb effective stacks I usually raise here for several reasons. #1 reason is to tell people, "get outta here with that donkey betting crap." The meta part of poker is real. #2 it's 100bb poker. #3 he isn't likely to have a set of 3's, and you block the set of 9's and 8's, therefore he probably has straight draws and with you having 2 ten straight blockers. Etc, etc.


So you have to ask yourself since it was a family pot, instead of heads up, do you want to play a bit more fit on the flop or play it the same way.

As played, I wouldn't be in your turn situation because I would have played the flop differently. Anytime a person donk bets the flop after your preflop raise, they are saying bad things about your Mother. Shut that crap down immediately.

I probably raise flop vs a donk bet of that sizing but it’s kinda awkward with 2 players behind and your stack so I honestly don’t know what’s best. Turn I’m peeling for sure if I flat flop but idk a lot of this is player dependent... does he donk 765 on this board and barrel turn if not he shouldn’t have a ton of straights really. I flat with qj IP at a really high frequency though so my play style is unorthodox so idk you got to construct your own ranges.

Holding two of our full house blockers, this is probably a fold. We block 99 and 88, so he is heavily weighted toward straight draws that mostly just got there. I am folding here.

What are you doing on the flop? The OP put a "?" for flop and turn decisions. I don't want to assume you are checking the flop because you might just be responding to the turn and not commenting on the flop.

Every non-straight, non-paired flop falls into one of five categories in terms of what percentage chance it has of making a straight possible on the turn. These flops can have a 0%, 25%, 33%, 41% or 49% chance of making a turn straight possible.

Some examples for each category are…

0% chance flop K83

25% chance flop Q83

33% chance flop Q94

41% chance flop Q75

49% chance flop 983

OP's flop of 9d8c3s is one of those flops that has a 49% chance of making a straight possible on the turn. Those flops make your life miserable if you were hoping the straight wouldn't hit. You start seeing monsters under the bed. But, I ain't afraid of no ghost. The OP started the hand with about 115bb. If I have a starting stack of 115bb, the SPR on the flop is about 4.5 and I flop top two pair and the third card on the board is a lowly 3 greatly reducing the chance my opponent has a set, then I am in bet/raise/stack-off mode.

Furthermore, my local casino won't let me ***** slap someone for donk betting the flop after my pre-flop raise, therefore I have to discourage donk betting by being aggressive with my poker hands instead of my physical hands.

I think flop call is fine, as played turn feels gross but fold may be correct. We don't have spades either, so villain should have plenty of equity with his semi-bluffs too. I can certainly see calling and evaluating river, especially with live reads.

If we call turn we are hoping villain has smaller set + straight draw or non-nut straight.

Hand is a bit harder to analyze when we consider the presence of bad whales and may indeed lead to the conclusion that flop raise is better than call (especially given the sizing) and to call the turn.

So on the turn we know 8 cards, so there are 44 left. We like 8 and dislike 36. So we are 4.5:1 against improving, getting 3:1. So we need to make on average around 1k each river. That's only 35% of pot so, and we are in position, so I think it's close but I'd probably fold as well. If we were getting 3.5:1 instead I'd probably call.

I think this is well played.

Depending on if they are extremely fishy postflop as well I think a pot commit is okay, but in my experience in games like this I find that people tend to be less loose in a spot like this.