Hi everyone, I'm looking for some insight as to how I played a hand.

Today I was at a live PLO game 10-handed with a $25 button straddle and no blinds, I was in MP with AQQ6. I was the shortest stack at the table, with around $1800. This game is wild and loose and typically plays more like a 25/50 game. Rarely do flops come with less than 300-400 in the pot. Tonight was particularly rowdy, as 3 of the biggest, loosest fish in the area were playing. My image at this table is that I am EXTREMELY tight, and that I only play the nuts/3 or 4bet preflop with AAxx, etc.

Anyway, I was between two of these players, both of whom are extremely laggy, raise pre flop with any holdings (by their logic to punish the limpers), and will get all-in pre with just about any cards.

The first laggy player raised to $100 on my right, I called. Laggy player to my left raises to $200. 3 people call, and back around to the player on my right who also calls. I bet pot, for $1100 (so an open call/4bet), and both of those players call, along with one other player who is a calling station fish who can never lay down a draw.

Flop comes T83

Laggy player to my right checks, and I ship with about $500 behind. My SPR was something ridiculous like .1. I think that the ship was correct because of this, and because I know for a fact that any of these players would call me with as little as middle pair or an OESD, regardless of the circumstances (so much so that the guy to my right has overtly said on a few occasions that he calls my 3-bets preflop every time just so he can try to bust my hands). All three of the players re-potted/got it in and I lost the hand to the player to my right who called with AT46r. The turn was a 4 and the river was a 2.

I technically 'got in ahead' against everyone, because my hand was the best once all of the stacks were in, but did I play this hand correctly given the field and the circumstances of the game?

I find it better not to play into the hands so to speak of these maniac types in these full ring games. Playing this hand the way you did preflop is generally going to be pretty high variance as you're often only pushing very small equity edges against even super wide ranges. Post flop is a slam dunk shove once you get there, but generally I'd advise saving your chips for higher equity spots and keeping sufficiently high postflop SPRs so you have room to maneuver and potentially make more EV by exploiting these players over multiple streets - As opposed to just GII as a marginal favourite and praying to the poker gods for run good.

Flop is complete no-brainer GII and trivial. Pre I could make the case for all three options, but if you’re risk neutral and/or can reload and/or losing a big pot will not tilt you, I think 4-betting pot is clearly best.

I like the back 4b

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AdQdQs6h	28.63%	168,443	6,816
40%	24.56%	141,917	11,046
50%	23.82%	137,658	10,672
70%	22.98%	133,109	9,670

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

600,000 trials (Randomized)

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
AdQdQs6h	30.99%	183,192	5,506
80%	23.36%	135,143	10,114
90%	22.86%	132,242	9,974
90%	22.79%	131,863	9,902

I’ve actually changed my mind seeing those percentages and 4b is horrible on second thought with the pot likely to go three or 4 way and a hand that flops pretty poorly (rare set of Qs or NFD but usually bare over-pair very unlikely to improve, often on very “wet” boards) and a hand that is crushed in the event one of the monkeys has woken up with KK or God forbid AAxx.

This hand doublesuited or AKQQss I’d four-bet but here I’d just pitch it I think, though since it’s a mini 3-b against fish you could call to set/nfd mine.

With your stack size you are essentially all-in preflop with AAQ6 once you put 60% of your money in.

I actually hate this hand in a 4-bet pot; the 6 is worthless and AQ only makes gut-shot straights; I'd much rather have something like KQJ10 or JJ109, that way when we do run into AAxx / KKxx we have the type of hands that can play well against those.

Against these players they call everything, so you have no fold equity - you will win sometimes, but you are just making it so that your variance is crazy. If you have the bankroll/can handle the swings it's not a bad approach, just a very volatile one.

I think my preferred plan of action would be: FOLD > CALL > RAISE

This is the mother of all hands you want to see a 15 way flop with money behind.

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Fold pre to the initial raise, the hand isnt strong enough to see a flop without mpre behind

Against a whole table of fish-calling people i hate the 4b with AQQss, we aren't going to flop good enough with our hand and it plays terrible multiway,and we pretty much have to jam 100% of flops because of SPR. Just call pre and bink a Queen/flush or give up OTF.

It's not a great 4bet against two players with wide ranges and another player with either a random A (not AAxx, just Axxx) or a random double-suited hand.

I'd probably never raise pre at this table, just because it's so easy to get it in post. The exceptions would be if effective stacks are so deep that it will be hard to get it in or if I have a hand where I can and want to go all in preflop with no further betting.

All this advice is really bad, except for this "This is the mother of all hands you want to see a 15 way flop with money behind."... but what he said hinges on stack depth both relative and actual, and if the game is playing how you said I'm not sure its a factor here with this action.

Most importantly:

The biggest take away you can get from this hand is you aren't even telling other peoples effective stack sizes when retelling hands. Your retelling of relative position was a bit sketchy too. These variables could change this exact hand to really good or moderately bad depending on how they are laid out. It has to always be a consideration in your head when squeezing if its possible/likely other players can leverage their stack in such a way that you gain more than your raw equity and/or get increased odds on your money. A perfect example is sometimes it's superior to just call even 50%(or even more, up to the maximum) of your stack multiway pre, even when its printing pre to punt it in, but you print more by being able to lead into players on the flop and squeeze them against eachother as opposed to reopening the action/everyone getting it in pre. Then there are other times where you absolutely need the action reopened to maximize your ev, just really depends and thinking more in lines of these sort of things in multiway poker spots can be a much more valuable use of your time than cold hand histories.

Back to what you actually asked:

Aqq6 single suited to the A is a stone monster and one of the top candidates for a squeeze all in if they are even 80% as loose as you are making it seem. You can think of it as essentially becoming a short stacked game and in short stack plo aqq6 is a bigggg ***** hand. All that being said I could see myself 3 betting the first person who opened if he is stone maniac (opening 70% or whatever). I like the call/squeeze if hes opening like 47% and other guys messing around a bunch vs said action.

As far as 3 betting a maniac:

This hand doesn't play that great as far as how hard you nail flops/actualize equity but getting in 325 vs someone opening 70% and playing bad with maybe some stone terrible people behind you/nobody exploiting you snap jamming akx type hands and axxxds run down type hands and various other equity rich/blocker rich hands fish usually just call with you are going to be printing. If it goes heads up there will be 675 in the pot going to the flop and you will have 1475 behind, it's perfectly manageable, for frame of reference having a half pot sized bet behind would be ideal, 1.5-2 spr is a slam dunk, 2.5 spr is fine/manageable, 3 spr is w/e, 3.5-4+spr is where it starts to be a problem with your type of hand IMO. 4+ being not so great, I start to really lean towards the call pre camp because your hand will play really well vs bad players at that stack depth post in the single raised pots vs what is gained by 3 betting even an insane opener with so many players behind.

If it doesn't go heads up ( and they are as bad as you say) our spr will be so low every decision will be trivial. If you were deeper 3 bet can easily get pretty damn bad even vs someone who is opening way too lose, simply because people can cold call behind and maintain high spr, or worse 4 bet you off your equity with reasonable ranges. That would be bad in and of itself but there is also the opportunity cost of not just flatting and playing deep with a potential nutty hand multi way vs bad players. In every instance that I've outlined it comes with the caveat that your reads are perfect, if they aren't nearly as loose as you think and they start 4 betting you with the right ranges if you are isoing as wide aqq6 with like 4 left to act you are going to run into some problems real fast at any stack depth. This is a mandatory 3 bet on the button vs a cut off open in any game with nearly any stacksize. If people are half as loose as you said, I'd also happily 3 bet the opener if he opened hijack and I was cut off. Hijack vs MP or one other position over you have to be certain he's opening very wide(65%-80% range I'm guessing) and everyone behind you is bad.

TLDR:

Fact is if people are too loose you have a very high value hand, it has an Ace blocker and good raw equity vs bad ranges whilst not usually having the luxury of actualizing very well post at your exact stack depth (deeper it goes up in value in fishy games). Happy to squeeze here and happy to 3 bet depending on the circumstances. One last thing if this action that happened after you called him is super typical it's a slam dunk squeeze and you played it really well.