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Originally Posted by Skrubtuds
I would shove to gii against SB and CO and have a +EV spot if both have set or both have draw.
And in worst case one have set and the other one has blocking spades but then I still have around 25%
It is also possible that I by shoving get all in against SB's draw (789Jss) and get CO to fold a made hand.
And by shoving there is no risk I will make a bad decision on later streets.(make a wrong fold on the turn or fold the best hand on the river)
J987ss is one of the only hand SB could have you're ahead of. The lack of any pair is really hurting you from an equity perspective. You're behind other draws, like T987 or 9876. You're certainly behind his range, which is why I don't like inflating the side pot.
If SB is thinking (I don't know if he is) he should see that BB has like 1350 left in a 4k pot, and should realize that his pot shove has little to no chance of taking down the pot. His donking pot first to act in a huge multi-way pot is also super strong. He should be heavily weighted to value hands here,
I also don't think later streets are that difficult. On turn, if board pairs then fold to a shove. If board doesn't pair, call a shove. If you hit your flush, gii. If turn checks through, on river just gii when you have the flush. The only difficult cards here are board-pairing spades.
IMO, flatting the best option because (i) you have no fold equity, (ii) you get the ability to fold when turn pairs board, (iii) you could see a free river and be able to fold when you brick and (iv) you keep CO in to juice up your return when you bink.