Stacks $500 effective. Villain unknown but seems to play well.
Hero dealt AQ23 in BB, SB limps in, hero checks.

Flop ($10) Q89
SB bets $5, hero raises to $20, SB calls.

Turn ($50) Q89J
SB bets $25, hero raises to $95, SB raises to $200. Hero??

Raise pre and call.

Interesting spot and I could definitely see him having T9dd, but you're never folding this turn. I see merits to calling and raising, but without more information about the Villain I'm leaning towards piling it in. Villain has shown much interest in this pot on the turn which leads me to believe that he has either 9Tdd (small portion of time) OR King High Flush with redraw to a boat (much more likely).

wouldn't raise turn vs "good" villains.

Not raising turn is in my book nut worst decision... Why do you think not raising turn is a good idea?

To 3bet/gii on the turn without straight flush isnt something a player who seem to play well would do. But the tone of your posts suggest you somehow managed shove here and got called by worse which is ridiculous.

because raising allows your opponent to play well against your range.

i call 100% of the time here... don't really see merits of raising. I mean he's either bluffing (not likely without ad which you have) or vbetting and in both cases he gets more $ in if you call more often then if you raise with your specific holding + this helps with range protection. If you fold this with how shallow you are just don't play poker

I ended up shoving it in, and V had 9T
GG.

Cool hand. Bbv next time. Chop pre. Super easy raise pre.

I can think of a reason...

Unlucky to run the nutflush into a straight flush, but you raised every time when you should've called and checked when you should've raised. What do you think his range is when he leads turn? It's Ad blocker, nutflushes (both impossible), straight flushes, maybe naked 9d or Td bluffs or other random bluffs. Anything else just checks. If he leads a ten high flush or whatever weird stuff he's probably going to fold to the raise anyway.

We're never folding, but we can try not to lose 100bb in a limped pot with the second nuts.

lol @ raising pre w/ AQ32. Need I remind people this is PLO, not 8 or better?

why did you post a hand if you dont accept any advice??


and yes, you should raise AQ32 and you should not raise turn

What did the rest of his hand look like?

Why would I accept ****ty advice?

which advice was ****ty? and why?

Bec this hand clearly shows u suck and when ure a bad player that lack fundamentals its a good idea to listen to advice

k

You really should just quit 2p2 you are drawing dead at getting better at poker if you can't even realize you might be wrong. I would venture to say all good players would raise this spot pre. If you think that's wrong try asking why rather than assume you are right. You got good advice and are dismissing it because you don't know what you don't know.

I don't believe raising with AQ32ds is +EV in this spot. For anybody that thinks otherwise, then go ahead and raise it. Your opinions are much appreciated. Besides, the question is not what to do pre. It's what to do after V raises turn. It's very convenient to ignore the more difficult play and just say oh yeah your problem is you didn't raise pre! That wold eliminate the whole problem here! And continue on your merry day.

Seeing as HSPLO forum is already dead, cheers to your encouragement to stop posting.

I just don't see what you get out of 2p2 when you post a train wreck of a hand, get correctly told why it's a train wreck and then tell the people giving you correct advice they are wrong.

Based on the level of logic in your latest reply the only decent advice to give you is quit poker you cannot possibly win. You want to talk about +EV?!

High stakes PLO forum might be dead because hands like this are micro stakes beginner questions and a $500 deep 2/5 game is not high stakes at all. No world class PLO player (btw I'm not close to one either) is gonna come in here and reply and then get told he's wrong by a guy that doesn't know anything and keep coming back.

blind on blind you should raise like 85% of your holdings pre 100bb+

Feel free to follow my results:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...e-plo-1689694/

Cheers buddy

it's good to examine oneself once in awhile, verdant. it may feel like people are ganging up on you, but thems is the breaks in a public forum.

i would think about why some of the more vetted posters in this thread are telling you that you are making some fundamental mistakes in this hand which ultimately reflect leaks in your overall thought process.

if you are able to handle it, (and I bet you are), I would take this criticism in stride and not take it as a direct attack on your personal self.

take this moment where you are getting good free advice and use it towards self improvement--for on and off the felt.

If the evidence is gonna be the scoreboard of live full ring PLO then pretty sure there will be plenty of opportunity for "see I told you so" on both sides. I honestly am not like rooting against you, you just have no idea how many times over the years I have seen a guy run hot for a short while and claim to have reinvented poker and that everyone telling him something basic is wrong.

I think it's fantastic if you win 10k in live PLO this year, I've won and lost that in live 5/10 PLO in *a day* dozens of times (and I play PLO about 10% of my sessions). It is a big game with big swings.

At the end of the day I know I can't change your mind about anything until you experience a bad run and consider changing strategy. But I write because others read this stuff and I don't want them to think bad strategy is right. Good luck