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06-10-2019 , 08:01 AM

PhatPots

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Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,934

- $5 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 188.8 BB
UTG: 431.21 BB
MP: 100 BB
CO: 43.8 BB
BTN: 114.05 BB
Hero (SB): 125.4 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K

UTG calls 1 BB, MP raises to 4.4 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4 BB, BB raises to 18.6 BB, UTG calls 17.6 BB, MP calls 14.2 BB, Hero raises to 93 BB, BB raises to 188.8 BB and is all-in, fold, MP calls 81.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 32.4 BB and is all-in

Flop: (369.4 BB, 3 players) 8

Turn: (369.4 BB, 3 players) A

River: (369.4 BB, 3 players) 2

UTG was limping like 70% of hands. MP has been a bit aggressive and can be ISO raising wide. After BB squeezes and so much in the middle, I decided I should try and steal the pot.

I am pretty new to PLO. I am still learning how to deal with these spots. Love it? Hate it? Standard?

Last edited by PhatPots; 06-10-2019 at 08:09 AM.

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06-10-2019 , 08:47 AM

Czech Rays

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 1,645

As a rule (which can change in specific spots), with KK do the following.

Raise pre and fold to a 3bet unless multiway in which case call with good sidecards

Call raises, don't 3bet.

Play KKA like aces until someone tells you they actually have aces with their betting

Fold to a 4bet with all KK combos unless versus lunatic.

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06-10-2019 , 09:38 AM

wolfbook

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Originally Posted by PhatPots

After BB squeezes and so much in the middle, I decided I should try and steal the pot.

In this situation you are not going to be able to steal this pot. If you raise you are getting called by at least 1 person and most likely are getting called by at least 2 people. Your weak side cards greatly reduce the showdown equity of your hand. That 3 in your hand is horrible, even getting it up to a 5 so that it connects with the 9 makes a huge difference.

You describe MP as aggro and can iso wide. Wide for a MP could still be a tight-ish range especially compared to your hand.

If someone in the BB re-raises a EP or MP raise, then give the BB a lot of credit for having a very strong hand.

Last edited by wolfbook; 06-10-2019 at 10:02 AM.

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06-10-2019 , 10:15 AM

PhatPots

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So if I had something like KKT7 DS, would this play be much better or still very marginal?

After BB 3-bets and gets the other 2 callers, would you just call with what I had or would you pitch it preflop?

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06-10-2019 , 10:28 AM

wolfbook

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The small blind is probably the most complicated position to play. You are guaranteed to be out of position for any hand that goes to the flop. Calling seems fine with either holding. But seek out ideas for the bottom of your range in different scenarios on the SB to not find yourself out of position too often.

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06-10-2019 , 04:05 PM

Alpha Fish

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you won't be able to steal anything in this spot ever, but the idea that you have the best hand a decent amount of time and it's time to push your equity advantage is not the worst one. this hand doesn't flop well and you're oop so against an active 3-bettor seems fine

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06-10-2019 , 06:19 PM

PokerPlayingGamble

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if u r new to PLO why r u playing 2/5

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06-11-2019 , 01:14 PM

PhatPots

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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble

if u r new to PLO why r u playing 2/5

Are 2/5 players much better than 1/2 players? From my experience I would say no. There are a few good players at 2/5, but there are plenty of maniacs.

It's really not worth my time to play 0.25/0.50 with where I am at the moment.

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06-11-2019 , 08:43 PM

HUMBLE.

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Originally Posted by Czech Rays

Agree with most of this, but I would fold a lot of these mediocre Kings unless I am in position and/or closing the action or know that the players behind me are very passive/very bad. Also, piling in a lot of money pre with this hand is not that great because even in low SPR situations you will not know whether you should go all in with your unimproved one pair.

OP, I think you are way overplaying your mediocre kings preflop. I believe if you play like this as a standard, you will often find yourself with the least amount of equity when the money goes in this multiway.

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06-12-2019 , 09:38 PM

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ABCforME

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Looks good to me up until about 150BB. Then I would just flat fearing the very non-zero times the squeezer does have AA or occasionally someone else weirdly trapping behind.

A lot of the time you will get called by an AK type hand here where his A outs were held and folded by other players. Assuming players are favoring such hands in their preflop selection. Suited aces etc.

With any dead money out there even if you get called by AA you aren’t doomed equity wise. These spots just show why I like to play with a huge bankroll so I can play lots of hands like these in a session and not stress when the first few big pots accidentally go the wrong way.

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