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H: BB
Kd7c6h5d

V: BTN
Obvious recreational player limp calling most hands

V limps SB bets 8 H and V call

Flop Th6d4h(24)

H leads for 18 V raises 48 H calls

Turn 8d(114)

H?

Leading the flop seems pretty bad as does calling the flop raise

Why did you lead flop? You have no range advantage over btn and this hand really wants to check. As played I think calling the smallish raise is marginal at best.

Turn is interesting. I would pot call it off but can be convinced check is better

Not trying to be rude but all streets seem terrible.

As played check the turn imo, you’re not that worried about many rivers and widening his range is ideal

I think turn lead is ok. Agree flop lead is an error, this is a great hand to xc. Normally if we lead we want a better heart blocker.

Yeah agree flop lead was a mistake, not gonna waste any time defending it.

Yeah sorry if I was rude

SB checked on flop, right? I can see why you would bet there because of that and don't think it's as disastrous as people make it out once the preflop raiser checks. (though I'd still check)

you have 3 clean nut outs on the flop - an off-suit 8 is probably winning but villain sometimes has 987, sometimes random 97 but tbh even if you hit the rivers won't set up for clean value that easily and there are tons of redraws on an 8. The 2 6s might be winning but carries a ton of reverse implied odds if opponent is loose passive and has lots of sets and two pairs OTF.

so you're paying 32 to create a really ugly turn pot OOP with a few outs. seems ambitious even against a fish.

as played you could lead and hope to fade the river but it's gonna be an ugly pot where you have under pot left and board pairs, hearts, straight redraws put you in weird spots. this is why the flop errors have compounded, you hit a top 6 out and still don't have a clear route to get the remainder stack in with great equity. if you check you haven't really made your river that much easier, just cheaper, which is good on tough rivers but on good rivers it means you just got way less implied odds for your flop call

Yeah sb checked which induced me to bet out here. It seemed like a hand w v little showdown value and a decent bit of equity. On the other hand i very much agree that betting is an error bc we don't want to get raised and have to fold all this equity(we probably shouldve just folded to this raise AP). Once I make that first error more problems start compounding, I posted the hand to understand where that first error occurred.