Hi all,

Would love to get your thoughts on this hand I played yesterday. I had been at the table for about 5 or 6 orbits; my reads in the hand are that villain is solid and hasn't shown any OOL bluffs.

5-handed
Hero - UTG - $750 - Kd,Kh,6d,2s()
UTG+1 ($500)
Villian - BTN ($1000)
SB ($500)
BB ($500)

Preflop: I open to $17.5, BTN and BB Call.
Flop (Pot: $55): 7c,7h,3c. I check and it checks through.
Turn (Pot: $55): Ks. I time-bank a little and bet pot. BTN makes it $165, BB folds.

Action is on us: Do we 3b bomb; call and c/r river; or do some sort of click-it-back. I can see merits to all of these choices. On one hand, it serves us to allow villian to try to catch up with a flush or make a bad 7s-full. On the other hand, if we bomb it, the only hand I am representing is KK and we may get looked up light. I'm not a huge fan of the click-it-back type raise, but it would be give him incredible odds to try to draw to worse.

[Flop Analysis: I checked with intention to call at least once depending on action behind me. Not sure if that is a leak or not, but I think c/f is too weak. I tend to mix a lead and c/c here. Interested in input here too.]

just call. also don't bet pot on the turn

Raise. If you are up against quads so be it. Since they have position on you, unless they are known to get OOL, you aren’t going to get a bet on the river from a hand weaker than yours.

If they for some reason raise as wide as 73 or 33 vs a pot sized bet and plan on checking back the river you should probably expect him to consider folding to your 3bet. Especially 33.

To say you won’t get a bet on the river from a weaker hand is ridiculous. K7 is not going to check back on a non ace river, and it makes about as much sense as 33 or 73. And in the case of 73, if he was to fold (which I think he often does) you’re missing out on the times he improves to a better full house and bets.

Ranges are so narrow and equity is so static after his raise that I doubt you should have a 3bet range at all.



Also seems a mistake to give 5 orbits of no ool bluffs much weight as it says very little about whether he ever bluffs in these spots. Even if he did you might not have seen it.

The fun part is figuring out what level he’s on wrt reads and how to look as weak as possible. You should definitely be looking intently at the river as if you’re hoping it might change something.

You're finding it hard to get paid in past experiences because you potted multiway in some absurd spot and likely do so often.

You're wrong to not be a fan of the "click it back type raises" and shows an underlying bad theory you have on bet/raise sizes.

I think you're going to make more money ITLR by betting, but not potting, the turn. If you half-pot or 3/4 pot, you're going to get called and raised by way more hands than you will when you pot it, and you're sitting on what is extremely likely to be the nuts on the river regardless of what card hits.

I think leading the flop would've been bad in this spot, too.

Did you consider calling and then donk-betting the river? You might get some more confused calls from 33377 or 7773 that way and I disagree that anything but KK777 will bet the river if you call the turn and check to them.

the thing is villains line looks a lot more like K7 or air then it does a smaller boat imo. with a small boat he's going to want to pot control.

Thanks everyone for their responses.

I understand the comments re: potting turn. I was between betting 1/2 and full-pot and went with pot to polarize between bluffs/nuts. However, I see the rationale for betting smaller with a wider portion of my range, including this hand. Thanks.

Good advice itt already, but just to hammer it home, in a variety of similar spots, particularly on paired boards, you want to have a cib range and a call range, barring very high SPRs, and no pot range.