Party Poker $400.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $223.50
Hero (BTN): $400.00
SB: $318.85
BB: $264.00
UTG: $466.45
MP: $354.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with J 9 T A
3 folds, Hero raises to $14, SB calls $12, 1 fold

Flop: ($32.00) 9 4 A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24.00, SB raises to $70,


Note he is not full. Line? do unknowns have random crap here enough to stack off? if we are continuing, flat and get it in on any turn to let his "bluff" continue?

bump, pretty interested to know if people continue here and if so how

I call and get it on any turns for <100bbs.

I'm not folding either way. I agree this is prob best line ^^

flat or raise. prolly raise since we are freerolling A9 sometimes and not behind very often.

Very player determined. Have u seen Villian out of line at any time? I think im getting it in because u have backdoor flush draw and running straight cards.

No scary turns for us apart from the K and we might get another bet out of A9 on the turn, definitely flat IP, 3betting mostly only gets us action from better hands

also my line

you mean A4? or A9 if we improve w J/T?

Well me might get another bet and then shove and get A9 to fold, or we might pick up the best hand against A9, can work both ways.

If he had potted i would just shove b/c he has a4 enough for us to get it in. sets are pretty unlikely because you have blockers to aa and 99 (plus he didnt 3 bet) and 44 is garbage. i think villain could also have 235 or something. with his smallish raise i can see him folding to a 3 bet so i flat and get it in on any turn

maybe a sick hand where the villian has 44 or 99 in his hand and u might be coolered on the flop. U might have to go with this hand tho.

This is completely player dependent. 100% ship or 100% fold.

Flatting is lol on that dry ass board.

Why's shipping better than flatting on a dry board? Trying to fold out 44 / another A9?

why should flatting flop be lol?, if you go broke on any turn card...why is it much worser than a shove?

don't understand you point...

I'm not folding this. Essentially worrying about 99xx and a rarer 44xx seems a bit too nitty here. I think his range could be something along the lines of 99xx/44xx/A9xx/A325/A49x mostly and bluffs/naked 235x rarely. I wouldn't give equal weights to each hand but his range here is still probably fairly tight on such a dry board.

Wazz makes a good point about possibly folding out a A9xx but I don't think that is going to happen to often. With a player sitting on 80bb to start a hand, generally when they flop top two and check/raise flops isn't to bet/fold turns.

If we flat here, it makes pot $172. And stacks are $234 eft. So theres not a ton of room to bet/fold. A K/Q/J/T may slow down another A9 depending on side cards though (which we don't want on the Jack/Ten turns).

I do like the flat the flop and try to get it in on the turn line. Any A/J/T/9/8/7/6 card should be good for our hand (providing he didn't flop a set) and probably a 5/4/3/2 most of the time as well. K/Q being the wild cards I guess.

Hmmmm. I actually think 3betting this would be the worst option with basically what wazz said. "3betting mostly only gets us action from better hands" but I guess it does depend a lot on the player (most obvious statement in poker).

It depends on how lightly he'll check/raise us (how often is he really showing up with air or A4). And how light he'll call a shove (will he call with A4?). I mean, if we don't expect a high weight of his range to be A4, A325, bluffs etc and/or we don't see him calling his money off with those A4xx A352 type hands then 3betting the flop starts to sound bad. On the flip side if we have reason to think this guy would value A4 just like 44xx and A9xx and if he would call off A4 a lot then 3betting I guess starts to become a better option.

So yes, its player dependant, but thats pretty specific into what we'd want to think about before deciding to 3bet the flop.

But like I said, normally I'd like to just flat this and pretty much rope myself into getting it in on most of those turn cards outlined above. It's just pretty brutal when a 2/3/5/K/4 rolls off and he bets $150 into $172 pot leavin himself with $84 left.